Wow, Mr Brightsight, you ask us to peacefully beg you to stop killing our kids? Your spinning, ridiculing, belittling does not show the desired effects? Do you hear anyone entering a dialouge when all I ask for is to do something about the insulting automated signings of postings here? Dialogue and Do is an absolute no-go combination here and elsewhere.
Personally I am very happy to still have my little devil around. Am Samstag, 29. November 2014 schrieb archytas : > That only calls into question whether we can tell an angel from a devil > Gabbs. I guess we have to keep fusion reactions from grounding to earth > and could do with getting them working. In the spin of current dialogue > one seems to meet only a spiral of devils smearing bimbolene about. I > can't help thinking the killing of various minor criminals by cops is what > we need to be protesting about. > > On Friday, November 28, 2014 2:52:10 PM UTC, Gabby wrote: >> >> Learning to hear Pink, Lesson 1: Angelic voices never touch the ground, >> Neil, for it would break their wings. They go in resonance with those who >> can hear. Hear the angelic and not the luciferian, mind the difference! >> >> On Thursday, November 27, 2014 2:19:53 PM UTC+1, archytas wrote: >>> >>> I sometimes find Molly's bubbles as 'pink' as Gabby. Yet Molly is never >>> as pink as, say, this academic view - http://www.uk.sagepub.com/ >>> rowe2e/study/Journal%20Articles/CHAPTER3_Race% >>> 20Class-2013-Fekete-65-76.pdf >>> >>> There are some important points even 'in the pink'. And I can't >>> remember Molly ever saying shifting the spiritual ground being anything >>> other than difficult - or that shifting racism and other material problems >>> can be done by not admitting what they are. One of the reasons I like both >>> these people is they can give as good as they get. We are in the middle of >>> a spate of child sexual exploitation investigations with celebrities, >>> politicians, Pakistani and Somali 'heritage' perpetrators in the UK. This >>> is not racist policing - the history is one of poor policing and cover up - >>> as the link says, the secrecy involved is very disturbing and deeply >>> embedded in our legal system. The necessary conditions for pink solutions >>> may well include fair and reliable policing, though in the black we might >>> have a good laugh watching politically correct heroes doing the job with a >>> few side bets on their life expectancy. >>> >>> On Thursday, November 27, 2014 12:28:16 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>> >>>> I agree with you RP souls do not listen to the inner voice, it is the >>>> satisfaction of today's pleasures that they are driven toward by the common >>>> communications of our world. Look at he the entertainment and promises >>>> made. >>>> >>>> لا القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد أو إيذاء الآخرين >>>> Do not murder, rape, enslave or harm others >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: RP Singh <[email protected]> >>>> To: Minds Eye <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 11:03 AM >>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Ferguson Missouri >>>> >>>> Allan , the problem is that people don't believe their inner voice, >>>> they believe in worldly attachments and work or prey for their >>>> satisfaction. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 1:12 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> لا القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد أو إيذاء الآخرين >>>>> Do not murder, rape, enslave or harm others >>>>> >>>>> A start , from there you need cooperation, all souls know the >>>>> guidelines of do no harm, but do people listen, to that the answer is yes >>>>> they do. They listen only to what they want to hear and what benefits >>>>> them. >>>>> The Gospel of Woe is well sung and recited daily. The problem with version >>>>> of life's view is it gives no answers that provide direction. >>>>> >>>>> Oh Woe is me echoes through out the world. There are many gospels but >>>>> I am thinking that one is the most widely followed! >>>>> >>>>> And for you Gabby I am not sure on the accuracy of the translation: >>>>> nicht Mord, Vergewaltigung, Versklavung oder andere schädigen. >>>>> >>>>> لا القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد أو إيذاء الآخرين >>>>> Do not murder, rape, enslave or harm others >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Molly <[email protected]> >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Sent: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 12:04 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Ferguson Missouri >>>>> >>>>> The unheard rage of those individuals dominated in dire circumstance >>>>> or as a group over the eons is heard in echos in distant news or, for >>>>> sensitive souls, deep within. It is up to each of us to find that place of >>>>> hate and violence within us, and move beyond it into peace. Until we do, >>>>> railing against a machine that churns out horror will do no good. >>>>> >>>>> On Wednesday, November 26, 2014 11:25:33 AM UTC-5, archytas wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> No sense, anyone, of Ferguson and the wider protests as an American >>>>>> spring? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wednesday, November 26, 2014 3:41:15 PM UTC, archytas wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No Idea what the male number is Gabby - is it a bit like the >>>>>>> opposite of what those women hanging around newsrooms do? I am male I'm >>>>>>> afraid, so am stuck with such as my feet not being the first thing I see >>>>>>> looking down in the shower. Of course, I'm old enough now to be more >>>>>>> concerned about keeping my feet working. For the record, the thinking >>>>>>> itself indestructible younger me would have taken on Mike Brown going >>>>>>> forward, believing some young big punk couldn't hack a fit rugby league >>>>>>> player half his size. Sorry to be so shrill my dear. I never made new >>>>>>> man >>>>>>> status, believing women capable of seeing through such crude deceptions, >>>>>>> even as they fell wildly under the strategy. We might consider what the >>>>>>> reaction would have been had Brown been shot by an 8 stone female cop >>>>>>> like >>>>>>> my ex-partner Mary. I'll get back in the kitchen and shut the door so >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> can't hear me being shrill then me dear. At least you are admitting we >>>>>>> men >>>>>>> can count these days, even if we do our number in shrill voice. >>>>>>> *Je vous adresse mon très amical souvenir c**haleureusement, comme >>>>>>> meme.* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wednesday, November 26, 2014 2:21:40 PM UTC, Gabby wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Your class consciousness is very well audible. When you do the mate >>>>>>>> number you still need to tone down a lot. It sounds shrill, Neil. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Am 26.11.2014 um 14:24 schrieb archytas <[email protected]>: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Some interesting views at the Post Gabby. I'm generally not keen >>>>>>>> to extrapolate from criminal mentalities on social problems, yet these >>>>>>>> problems almost must be multi-faceted and thus not amenable to fascist >>>>>>>> analysis through slogan. Much of my experience with black people came >>>>>>>> through cricket (great) and being a cop (good, bad, indifferent) or >>>>>>>> university teacher (as stupid and unreliable as the rest of the >>>>>>>> class?). A >>>>>>>> university friend took me to his village in what was then Zaire. I can >>>>>>>> only say any discussion I've heard on ethnic rights since is so >>>>>>>> constrained >>>>>>>> by political correctness slogans as to be both fascist and based on >>>>>>>> presenting the face of Goody-two-shoes. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Rage against the machine? Not well directed if true - and I feel >>>>>>>> it is. I'm amazed there isn't more rage generally. I'd work with what >>>>>>>> I've seen of Darren Wilson ahead of the looters for sure - yet I always >>>>>>>> wondered why cops like me and him had to do the public order thing for >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> Establishment without much consideration. This had me defending the >>>>>>>> right >>>>>>>> of some Nazi to parade through Stockport. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The idea that any human beings are less racist on race grounds is >>>>>>>> so dumb only someone with a PC infection could come up with it. And >>>>>>>> much >>>>>>>> as I don't like the figures on prison populations I'm sick of race >>>>>>>> explanations. Men are imprisoned far more than women. Let's make >>>>>>>> that a >>>>>>>> gender rights issue!! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Obama is white Tony - just one of the mobiles in my black brush >>>>>>>> collection. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wednesday, 26 November 2014 12:10:36 UTC, Molly wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Detroit retail never fully recovered from the 67 riots created by >>>>>>>>> the same kind of circumstance. The stores that closed having lost >>>>>>>>> everything with no faith that it wouldn't keep happening. The racial >>>>>>>>> divide >>>>>>>>> has played out here in many horrendous ways over the years, including >>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>> "black power" city government being instructed by the mayor to do no >>>>>>>>> business with white owned companies. The ethnocentrism was finally the >>>>>>>>> demise of the exclusionary government that fell into deep corruption >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> bankruptcy. I see both sides and neither are healthy until the city >>>>>>>>> is seen >>>>>>>>> as a whole including all and part of the rest of the world. Through >>>>>>>>> all of >>>>>>>>> it, it has somehow remained a driving force in global economy and >>>>>>>>> culture. >>>>>>>>> Tribal societies no longer function on large scale and examples of >>>>>>>>> this can >>>>>>>>> be seen all over the world. The reluctance of each of us to see beyond >>>>>>>>> color and history lies at the heart of the problem. Grace Lee Boggs >>>>>>>>> fascinates me because her story runs the gamut of descent, rebel, >>>>>>>>> revolutionary, community leader that unites, finding her way from >>>>>>>>> divisive >>>>>>>>> messages to unifying actions. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 8:29:24 PM UTC-5, facilitator wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The anger I can partially understand since the messiah in the >>>>>>>>>> White House has had little or negative impact on the average black in >>>>>>>>>> "Partially United States". The seething rage comes from many, many >>>>>>>>>> years >>>>>>>>>> of disproportionate treatment and does not need much to surface. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I don't really understand how looting helps the cause. I know >>>>>>>>>> unequivocally when there is a crime being committed people call >>>>>>>>>> police and >>>>>>>>>> not looting mobs to come help. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Maybe the North Koreans can show us what true peace is in the >>>>>>>>>> happy place of the Great Leader! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 4:20:45 PM UTC-5, archytas wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Much is fit only for ridicule Gabby. As for the positive >>>>>>>>>>> pounding, my best friend likes those loud Japanese drums as a >>>>>>>>>>> prelude to a >>>>>>>>>>> few beers. Quite how we get to sense talk instead of newsroom >>>>>>>>>>> madness has >>>>>>>>>>> troubled me forever, as I'm sure you know. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'd have been expected to take Michael Brown down unarmed - >>>>>>>>>>> something of a mismatch at 168 versus 290 pounds and a routine >>>>>>>>>>> Salford >>>>>>>>>>> Saturday night. I guess I could have run away until the pink slime >>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> doughnuts tired him out and I could get a tow-truck to transport >>>>>>>>>>> him to the >>>>>>>>>>> Crescent. Even armed I tended not to shoot people, fearing weeks >>>>>>>>>>> of paper >>>>>>>>>>> work more than the odd knife graze. Quite why cops were supposed >>>>>>>>>>> to put >>>>>>>>>>> their bodies on the line instead of just shooting bad guys I'm not >>>>>>>>>>> sure. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I don't get the race thing at all, here or in the US other than >>>>>>>>>>> as Tony says. Smacking a cop in the mouth seems pretty 'racist' to >>>>>>>>>>> me. >>>>>>>>>>> The US situation looks a lot like Northern Ireland to me - the >>>>>>>>>>> Catholics >>>>>>>>>>> had genuine civil rights issues there on housing, jobs and lousy >>>>>>>>>>> treatment. These were not addressed directly either. The >>>>>>>>>>> investigation >>>>>>>>>>> into Wilson's actions look reasonable and speedy compared with here >>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> much more open. This seems to no avail. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> One very noticeable thing in the US investigations is knowledge >>>>>>>>>>> of the limitations of cops accounts of their shootings on such as >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> number of rounds fired and recall ability. Here our cops are >>>>>>>>>>> taught to >>>>>>>>>>> parrot the Manual of Guidance on the care with which each shot is >>>>>>>>>>> aimed and >>>>>>>>>>> fired with perfect memory. And our cops are allowed to refuse to >>>>>>>>>>> answer >>>>>>>>>>> questions and collude on answers. Thus our cops lie to make their >>>>>>>>>>> stories >>>>>>>>>>> look like the textbook and match each other. I don't get the logic >>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>> 'black guy dead, burn Tottenham or Ferguson'. Or that of 'the >>>>>>>>>>> Establishment is corrupt, cure this by lynching a cop who has shot >>>>>>>>>>> a crook'. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 3:34:07 PM UTC, facilitator wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The media consistently wanted this to be about race. It >>>>>>>>>>>> wasn't. Change the demographics of either the cop or the deceased >>>>>>>>>>>> and this >>>>>>>>>>>> story would not have been in the news at all. The problem is the >>>>>>>>>>>> premiss. >>>>>>>>>>>> Our system allows a Grand Jury to decide if charges are to be >>>>>>>>>>>> rendered. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I have been on two Grand Juries and we all took these matters >>>>>>>>>>>> very seriously. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in >>>>>>>> the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/ >>>>>>>> topic/minds-eye/II9hZsHPsPs/unsubscribe. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> -- > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/minds-eye/II9hZsHPsPs/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > [email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','minds-eye%[email protected]');> > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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