Durchsichtigkeit as ever, the diaphanousness, insightfulness, transparence and pellucidness of a lovely aim.
On Saturday, November 29, 2014 4:57:03 PM UTC, Gabby wrote: > > Yep, time for some royal silence. Molly take over again and soothe the > boy's pains. > Am 29.11.2014 16:37 schrieb "archytas" <[email protected]>: > >> If Mr Brightsight was able to understand what that little devil is >> actually saying on signing he might tell me so I could act, at least to the >> point of leaving the action to Molly, who does most of the work. German >> and UK police rarely shoot people. >> >> Given your action perspective, perhaps you should 'stick to your guns' >> and get out disarming crime? We could all sleep soundly in our panic rooms >> then. Or we could let the poor little waifs likely to be shot by existing >> police do the policing. No doubt you could have soothed the mad, naked man >> with a knife outside your Town Hall last year and I would have shot him to >> protect nearby children and myself. >> http://www.dw.de/why-german-police-officers-rarely-reach-for-their-guns/a-17884779 >> >> These 'victims' are not 'our' children and the numbers pale against the >> killings in Afghanistan, Iraq and the centuries of imperial war. We hardly >> seem to get out of our chattering class habits on what is done to our >> actual children in such as schools and the vile neo-liberal enterprise. >> >> >> Personally I am very happy to still have my little devil around. >>> >>> Am Samstag, 29. November 2014 schrieb archytas : >>> >>>> That only calls into question whether we can tell an angel from a devil >>>> Gabbs. I guess we have to keep fusion reactions from grounding to earth >>>> and could do with getting them working. In the spin of current dialogue >>>> one seems to meet only a spiral of devils smearing bimbolene about. I >>>> can't help thinking the killing of various minor criminals by cops is what >>>> we need to be protesting about. >>>> >>>> On Friday, November 28, 2014 2:52:10 PM UTC, Gabby wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Learning to hear Pink, Lesson 1: Angelic voices never touch the >>>>> ground, Neil, for it would break their wings. They go in resonance with >>>>> those who can hear. Hear the angelic and not the luciferian, mind the >>>>> difference! >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday, November 27, 2014 2:19:53 PM UTC+1, archytas wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I sometimes find Molly's bubbles as 'pink' as Gabby. Yet Molly is >>>>>> never as pink as, say, this academic view - >>>>>> http://www.uk.sagepub.com/rowe2e/study/Journal%20Articles/ >>>>>> CHAPTER3_Race%20Class-2013-Fekete-65-76.pdf >>>>>> >>>>>> There are some important points even 'in the pink'. And I can't >>>>>> remember Molly ever saying shifting the spiritual ground being anything >>>>>> other than difficult - or that shifting racism and other material >>>>>> problems >>>>>> can be done by not admitting what they are. One of the reasons I like >>>>>> both >>>>>> these people is they can give as good as they get. We are in the middle >>>>>> of >>>>>> a spate of child sexual exploitation investigations with celebrities, >>>>>> politicians, Pakistani and Somali 'heritage' perpetrators in the UK. >>>>>> This >>>>>> is not racist policing - the history is one of poor policing and cover >>>>>> up - >>>>>> as the link says, the secrecy involved is very disturbing and deeply >>>>>> embedded in our legal system. The necessary conditions for pink >>>>>> solutions >>>>>> may well include fair and reliable policing, though in the black we >>>>>> might >>>>>> have a good laugh watching politically correct heroes doing the job with >>>>>> a >>>>>> few side bets on their life expectancy. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thursday, November 27, 2014 12:28:16 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I agree with you RP souls do not listen to the inner voice, it is >>>>>>> the satisfaction of today's pleasures that they are driven toward by >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> common communications of our world. Look at he the entertainment and >>>>>>> promises made. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> لا القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد أو إيذاء الآخرين >>>>>>> Do not murder, rape, enslave or harm others >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: RP Singh <[email protected]> >>>>>>> To: Minds Eye <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Sent: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 11:03 AM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Ferguson Missouri >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Allan , the problem is that people don't believe their inner voice, >>>>>>> they believe in worldly attachments and work or prey for their >>>>>>> satisfaction. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 1:12 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> لا القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد أو إيذاء الآخرين >>>>>>>> Do not murder, rape, enslave or harm others >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A start , from there you need cooperation, all souls know the >>>>>>>> guidelines of do no harm, but do people listen, to that the answer is >>>>>>>> yes >>>>>>>> they do. They listen only to what they want to hear and what benefits >>>>>>>> them. >>>>>>>> The Gospel of Woe is well sung and recited daily. The problem with >>>>>>>> version >>>>>>>> of life's view is it gives no answers that provide direction. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Oh Woe is me echoes through out the world. There are many gospels >>>>>>>> but I am thinking that one is the most widely followed! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And for you Gabby I am not sure on the accuracy of the translation: >>>>>>>> nicht Mord, Vergewaltigung, Versklavung oder andere schädigen. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> لا القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد أو إيذاء الآخرين >>>>>>>> Do not murder, rape, enslave or harm others >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: Molly <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>> Sent: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 12:04 AM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Ferguson Missouri >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The unheard rage of those individuals dominated in dire >>>>>>>> circumstance or as a group over the eons is heard in echos in distant >>>>>>>> news >>>>>>>> or, for sensitive souls, deep within. It is up to each of us to find >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> place of hate and violence within us, and move beyond it into peace. >>>>>>>> Until >>>>>>>> we do, railing against a machine that churns out horror will do no >>>>>>>> good. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wednesday, November 26, 2014 11:25:33 AM UTC-5, archytas wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> No sense, anyone, of Ferguson and the wider protests as an >>>>>>>>> American spring? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, November 26, 2014 3:41:15 PM UTC, archytas wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> No Idea what the male number is Gabby - is it a bit like the >>>>>>>>>> opposite of what those women hanging around newsrooms do? I am male >>>>>>>>>> I'm >>>>>>>>>> afraid, so am stuck with such as my feet not being the first thing I >>>>>>>>>> see >>>>>>>>>> looking down in the shower. Of course, I'm old enough now to be >>>>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>>>> concerned about keeping my feet working. For the record, the >>>>>>>>>> thinking >>>>>>>>>> itself indestructible younger me would have taken on Mike Brown >>>>>>>>>> going >>>>>>>>>> forward, believing some young big punk couldn't hack a fit rugby >>>>>>>>>> league >>>>>>>>>> player half his size. Sorry to be so shrill my dear. I never made >>>>>>>>>> new man >>>>>>>>>> status, believing women capable of seeing through such crude >>>>>>>>>> deceptions, >>>>>>>>>> even as they fell wildly under the strategy. We might consider what >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> reaction would have been had Brown been shot by an 8 stone female >>>>>>>>>> cop like >>>>>>>>>> my ex-partner Mary. I'll get back in the kitchen and shut the door >>>>>>>>>> so you >>>>>>>>>> can't hear me being shrill then me dear. At least you are admitting >>>>>>>>>> we men >>>>>>>>>> can count these days, even if we do our number in shrill voice. >>>>>>>>>> *Je vous adresse mon très amical souvenir c**haleureusement, >>>>>>>>>> comme meme.* >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, November 26, 2014 2:21:40 PM UTC, Gabby wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Your class consciousness is very well audible. When you do the >>>>>>>>>>> mate number you still need to tone down a lot. It sounds shrill, >>>>>>>>>>> Neil. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Am 26.11.2014 um 14:24 schrieb archytas <[email protected]>: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Some interesting views at the Post Gabby. I'm generally not >>>>>>>>>>> keen to extrapolate from criminal mentalities on social problems, >>>>>>>>>>> yet these >>>>>>>>>>> problems almost must be multi-faceted and thus not amenable to >>>>>>>>>>> fascist >>>>>>>>>>> analysis through slogan. Much of my experience with black people >>>>>>>>>>> came >>>>>>>>>>> through cricket (great) and being a cop (good, bad, indifferent) or >>>>>>>>>>> university teacher (as stupid and unreliable as the rest of the >>>>>>>>>>> class?). A >>>>>>>>>>> university friend took me to his village in what was then Zaire. I >>>>>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>>>> only say any discussion I've heard on ethnic rights since is so >>>>>>>>>>> constrained >>>>>>>>>>> by political correctness slogans as to be both fascist and based on >>>>>>>>>>> presenting the face of Goody-two-shoes. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Rage against the machine? Not well directed if true - and I >>>>>>>>>>> feel it is. I'm amazed there isn't more rage generally. I'd work >>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>> what I've seen of Darren Wilson ahead of the looters for sure - yet >>>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>>> always wondered why cops like me and him had to do the public order >>>>>>>>>>> thing >>>>>>>>>>> for the Establishment without much consideration. This had me >>>>>>>>>>> defending >>>>>>>>>>> the right of some Nazi to parade through Stockport. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The idea that any human beings are less racist on race grounds >>>>>>>>>>> is so dumb only someone with a PC infection could come up with it. >>>>>>>>>>> And >>>>>>>>>>> much as I don't like the figures on prison populations I'm sick of >>>>>>>>>>> race >>>>>>>>>>> explanations. Men are imprisoned far more than women. Let's make >>>>>>>>>>> that a >>>>>>>>>>> gender rights issue!! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Obama is white Tony - just one of the mobiles in my black brush >>>>>>>>>>> collection. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, 26 November 2014 12:10:36 UTC, Molly wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Detroit retail never fully recovered from the 67 riots created >>>>>>>>>>>> by the same kind of circumstance. The stores that closed having >>>>>>>>>>>> lost >>>>>>>>>>>> everything with no faith that it wouldn't keep happening. The >>>>>>>>>>>> racial divide >>>>>>>>>>>> has played out here in many horrendous ways over the years, >>>>>>>>>>>> including a >>>>>>>>>>>> "black power" city government being instructed by the mayor to do >>>>>>>>>>>> no >>>>>>>>>>>> business with white owned companies. The ethnocentrism was finally >>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> demise of the exclusionary government that fell into deep >>>>>>>>>>>> corruption and >>>>>>>>>>>> bankruptcy. I see both sides and neither are healthy until the >>>>>>>>>>>> city is seen >>>>>>>>>>>> as a whole including all and part of the rest of the world. >>>>>>>>>>>> Through all of >>>>>>>>>>>> it, it has somehow remained a driving force in global economy and >>>>>>>>>>>> culture. >>>>>>>>>>>> Tribal societies no longer function on large scale and examples of >>>>>>>>>>>> this can >>>>>>>>>>>> be seen all over the world. The reluctance of each of us to see >>>>>>>>>>>> beyond >>>>>>>>>>>> color and history lies at the heart of the problem. Grace Lee >>>>>>>>>>>> Boggs >>>>>>>>>>>> fascinates me because her story runs the gamut of descent, rebel, >>>>>>>>>>>> revolutionary, community leader that unites, finding her way from >>>>>>>>>>>> divisive >>>>>>>>>>>> messages to unifying actions. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 8:29:24 PM UTC-5, facilitator >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The anger I can partially understand since the messiah in the >>>>>>>>>>>>> White House has had little or negative impact on the average >>>>>>>>>>>>> black in >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Partially United States". The seething rage comes from many, >>>>>>>>>>>>> many years >>>>>>>>>>>>> of disproportionate treatment and does not need much to surface. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't really understand how looting helps the cause. I know >>>>>>>>>>>>> unequivocally when there is a crime being committed people call >>>>>>>>>>>>> police and >>>>>>>>>>>>> not looting mobs to come help. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe the North Koreans can show us what true peace is in the >>>>>>>>>>>>> happy place of the Great Leader! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 4:20:45 PM UTC-5, archytas wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Much is fit only for ridicule Gabby. As for the positive >>>>>>>>>>>>>> pounding, my best friend likes those loud Japanese drums as a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> prelude to a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> few beers. Quite how we get to sense talk instead of newsroom >>>>>>>>>>>>>> madness has >>>>>>>>>>>>>> troubled me forever, as I'm sure you know. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd have been expected to take Michael Brown down unarmed - >>>>>>>>>>>>>> something of a mismatch at 168 versus 290 pounds and a routine >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Salford >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saturday night. I guess I could have run away until the pink >>>>>>>>>>>>>> slime and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> doughnuts tired him out and I could get a tow-truck to transport >>>>>>>>>>>>>> him to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Crescent. Even armed I tended not to shoot people, fearing >>>>>>>>>>>>>> weeks of paper >>>>>>>>>>>>>> work more than the odd knife graze. Quite why cops were >>>>>>>>>>>>>> supposed to put >>>>>>>>>>>>>> their bodies on the line instead of just shooting bad guys I'm >>>>>>>>>>>>>> not sure. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't get the race thing at all, here or in the US other >>>>>>>>>>>>>> than as Tony says. Smacking a cop in the mouth seems pretty >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'racist' to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> me. The US situation looks a lot like Northern Ireland to me - >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Catholics had genuine civil rights issues there on housing, jobs >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and lousy >>>>>>>>>>>>>> treatment. These were not addressed directly either. The >>>>>>>>>>>>>> investigation >>>>>>>>>>>>>> into Wilson's actions look reasonable and speedy compared with >>>>>>>>>>>>>> here and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> much more open. This seems to no avail. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> One very noticeable thing in the US investigations is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> knowledge of the limitations of cops accounts of their shootings >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on such as >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the number of rounds fired and recall ability. Here our cops >>>>>>>>>>>>>> are taught to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> parrot the Manual of Guidance on the care with which each shot >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is aimed and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> fired with perfect memory. And our cops are allowed to refuse >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to answer >>>>>>>>>>>>>> questions and collude on answers. Thus our cops lie to make >>>>>>>>>>>>>> their stories >>>>>>>>>>>>>> look like the textbook and match each other. I don't get the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> logic of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'black guy dead, burn Tottenham or Ferguson'. Or that of 'the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Establishment is corrupt, cure this by lynching a cop who has >>>>>>>>>>>>>> shot a crook'. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 3:34:07 PM UTC, facilitator >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The media consistently wanted this to be about race. It >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wasn't. Change the demographics of either the cop or the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deceased and this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> story would not have been in the news at all. 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