Yep, time for some royal silence. Molly take over again and soothe the boy's pains. Am 29.11.2014 16:37 schrieb "archytas" <[email protected]>:
> If Mr Brightsight was able to understand what that little devil is > actually saying on signing he might tell me so I could act, at least to the > point of leaving the action to Molly, who does most of the work. German > and UK police rarely shoot people. > > Given your action perspective, perhaps you should 'stick to your guns' and > get out disarming crime? We could all sleep soundly in our panic rooms > then. Or we could let the poor little waifs likely to be shot by existing > police do the policing. No doubt you could have soothed the mad, naked man > with a knife outside your Town Hall last year and I would have shot him to > protect nearby children and myself. > http://www.dw.de/why-german-police-officers-rarely-reach-for-their-guns/a-17884779 > > These 'victims' are not 'our' children and the numbers pale against the > killings in Afghanistan, Iraq and the centuries of imperial war. We hardly > seem to get out of our chattering class habits on what is done to our > actual children in such as schools and the vile neo-liberal enterprise. > > > Personally I am very happy to still have my little devil around. >> >> Am Samstag, 29. November 2014 schrieb archytas : >> >>> That only calls into question whether we can tell an angel from a devil >>> Gabbs. I guess we have to keep fusion reactions from grounding to earth >>> and could do with getting them working. In the spin of current dialogue >>> one seems to meet only a spiral of devils smearing bimbolene about. I >>> can't help thinking the killing of various minor criminals by cops is what >>> we need to be protesting about. >>> >>> On Friday, November 28, 2014 2:52:10 PM UTC, Gabby wrote: >>>> >>>> Learning to hear Pink, Lesson 1: Angelic voices never touch the ground, >>>> Neil, for it would break their wings. They go in resonance with those who >>>> can hear. Hear the angelic and not the luciferian, mind the difference! >>>> >>>> On Thursday, November 27, 2014 2:19:53 PM UTC+1, archytas wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I sometimes find Molly's bubbles as 'pink' as Gabby. Yet Molly is >>>>> never as pink as, say, this academic view - http://www.uk.sagepub.com/ >>>>> rowe2e/study/Journal%20Articles/CHAPTER3_Race%20Class-2013- >>>>> Fekete-65-76.pdf >>>>> >>>>> There are some important points even 'in the pink'. And I can't >>>>> remember Molly ever saying shifting the spiritual ground being anything >>>>> other than difficult - or that shifting racism and other material problems >>>>> can be done by not admitting what they are. One of the reasons I like >>>>> both >>>>> these people is they can give as good as they get. We are in the middle >>>>> of >>>>> a spate of child sexual exploitation investigations with celebrities, >>>>> politicians, Pakistani and Somali 'heritage' perpetrators in the UK. This >>>>> is not racist policing - the history is one of poor policing and cover up >>>>> - >>>>> as the link says, the secrecy involved is very disturbing and deeply >>>>> embedded in our legal system. The necessary conditions for pink solutions >>>>> may well include fair and reliable policing, though in the black we might >>>>> have a good laugh watching politically correct heroes doing the job with a >>>>> few side bets on their life expectancy. >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday, November 27, 2014 12:28:16 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I agree with you RP souls do not listen to the inner voice, it is the >>>>>> satisfaction of today's pleasures that they are driven toward by the >>>>>> common >>>>>> communications of our world. Look at he the entertainment and promises >>>>>> made. >>>>>> >>>>>> لا القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد أو إيذاء الآخرين >>>>>> Do not murder, rape, enslave or harm others >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: RP Singh <[email protected]> >>>>>> To: Minds Eye <[email protected]> >>>>>> Sent: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 11:03 AM >>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Ferguson Missouri >>>>>> >>>>>> Allan , the problem is that people don't believe their inner voice, >>>>>> they believe in worldly attachments and work or prey for their >>>>>> satisfaction. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 1:12 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> لا القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد أو إيذاء الآخرين >>>>>>> Do not murder, rape, enslave or harm others >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A start , from there you need cooperation, all souls know the >>>>>>> guidelines of do no harm, but do people listen, to that the answer is >>>>>>> yes >>>>>>> they do. They listen only to what they want to hear and what benefits >>>>>>> them. >>>>>>> The Gospel of Woe is well sung and recited daily. The problem with >>>>>>> version >>>>>>> of life's view is it gives no answers that provide direction. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Oh Woe is me echoes through out the world. There are many gospels >>>>>>> but I am thinking that one is the most widely followed! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And for you Gabby I am not sure on the accuracy of the translation: >>>>>>> nicht Mord, Vergewaltigung, Versklavung oder andere schädigen. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> لا القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد أو إيذاء الآخرين >>>>>>> Do not murder, rape, enslave or harm others >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: Molly <[email protected]> >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Sent: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 12:04 AM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Ferguson Missouri >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The unheard rage of those individuals dominated in dire circumstance >>>>>>> or as a group over the eons is heard in echos in distant news or, for >>>>>>> sensitive souls, deep within. It is up to each of us to find that place >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> hate and violence within us, and move beyond it into peace. Until we >>>>>>> do, >>>>>>> railing against a machine that churns out horror will do no good. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wednesday, November 26, 2014 11:25:33 AM UTC-5, archytas wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No sense, anyone, of Ferguson and the wider protests as an American >>>>>>>> spring? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wednesday, November 26, 2014 3:41:15 PM UTC, archytas wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> No Idea what the male number is Gabby - is it a bit like the >>>>>>>>> opposite of what those women hanging around newsrooms do? I am male >>>>>>>>> I'm >>>>>>>>> afraid, so am stuck with such as my feet not being the first thing I >>>>>>>>> see >>>>>>>>> looking down in the shower. Of course, I'm old enough now to be more >>>>>>>>> concerned about keeping my feet working. For the record, the thinking >>>>>>>>> itself indestructible younger me would have taken on Mike Brown going >>>>>>>>> forward, believing some young big punk couldn't hack a fit rugby >>>>>>>>> league >>>>>>>>> player half his size. Sorry to be so shrill my dear. I never made >>>>>>>>> new man >>>>>>>>> status, believing women capable of seeing through such crude >>>>>>>>> deceptions, >>>>>>>>> even as they fell wildly under the strategy. We might consider what >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> reaction would have been had Brown been shot by an 8 stone female cop >>>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>>> my ex-partner Mary. I'll get back in the kitchen and shut the door >>>>>>>>> so you >>>>>>>>> can't hear me being shrill then me dear. At least you are admitting >>>>>>>>> we men >>>>>>>>> can count these days, even if we do our number in shrill voice. >>>>>>>>> *Je vous adresse mon très amical souvenir c**haleureusement, >>>>>>>>> comme meme.* >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, November 26, 2014 2:21:40 PM UTC, Gabby wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Your class consciousness is very well audible. When you do the >>>>>>>>>> mate number you still need to tone down a lot. It sounds shrill, >>>>>>>>>> Neil. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Am 26.11.2014 um 14:24 schrieb archytas <[email protected]>: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Some interesting views at the Post Gabby. I'm generally not keen >>>>>>>>>> to extrapolate from criminal mentalities on social problems, yet >>>>>>>>>> these >>>>>>>>>> problems almost must be multi-faceted and thus not amenable to >>>>>>>>>> fascist >>>>>>>>>> analysis through slogan. Much of my experience with black people >>>>>>>>>> came >>>>>>>>>> through cricket (great) and being a cop (good, bad, indifferent) or >>>>>>>>>> university teacher (as stupid and unreliable as the rest of the >>>>>>>>>> class?). A >>>>>>>>>> university friend took me to his village in what was then Zaire. I >>>>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>>> only say any discussion I've heard on ethnic rights since is so >>>>>>>>>> constrained >>>>>>>>>> by political correctness slogans as to be both fascist and based on >>>>>>>>>> presenting the face of Goody-two-shoes. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Rage against the machine? Not well directed if true - and I feel >>>>>>>>>> it is. I'm amazed there isn't more rage generally. I'd work with >>>>>>>>>> what >>>>>>>>>> I've seen of Darren Wilson ahead of the looters for sure - yet I >>>>>>>>>> always >>>>>>>>>> wondered why cops like me and him had to do the public order thing >>>>>>>>>> for the >>>>>>>>>> Establishment without much consideration. This had me defending the >>>>>>>>>> right >>>>>>>>>> of some Nazi to parade through Stockport. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The idea that any human beings are less racist on race grounds is >>>>>>>>>> so dumb only someone with a PC infection could come up with it. And >>>>>>>>>> much >>>>>>>>>> as I don't like the figures on prison populations I'm sick of race >>>>>>>>>> explanations. Men are imprisoned far more than women. Let's make >>>>>>>>>> that a >>>>>>>>>> gender rights issue!! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Obama is white Tony - just one of the mobiles in my black brush >>>>>>>>>> collection. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, 26 November 2014 12:10:36 UTC, Molly wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Detroit retail never fully recovered from the 67 riots created >>>>>>>>>>> by the same kind of circumstance. The stores that closed having lost >>>>>>>>>>> everything with no faith that it wouldn't keep happening. The >>>>>>>>>>> racial divide >>>>>>>>>>> has played out here in many horrendous ways over the years, >>>>>>>>>>> including a >>>>>>>>>>> "black power" city government being instructed by the mayor to do no >>>>>>>>>>> business with white owned companies. The ethnocentrism was finally >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> demise of the exclusionary government that fell into deep >>>>>>>>>>> corruption and >>>>>>>>>>> bankruptcy. I see both sides and neither are healthy until the city >>>>>>>>>>> is seen >>>>>>>>>>> as a whole including all and part of the rest of the world. >>>>>>>>>>> Through all of >>>>>>>>>>> it, it has somehow remained a driving force in global economy and >>>>>>>>>>> culture. >>>>>>>>>>> Tribal societies no longer function on large scale and examples of >>>>>>>>>>> this can >>>>>>>>>>> be seen all over the world. The reluctance of each of us to see >>>>>>>>>>> beyond >>>>>>>>>>> color and history lies at the heart of the problem. Grace Lee Boggs >>>>>>>>>>> fascinates me because her story runs the gamut of descent, rebel, >>>>>>>>>>> revolutionary, community leader that unites, finding her way from >>>>>>>>>>> divisive >>>>>>>>>>> messages to unifying actions. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 8:29:24 PM UTC-5, facilitator >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The anger I can partially understand since the messiah in the >>>>>>>>>>>> White House has had little or negative impact on the average black >>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>> "Partially United States". The seething rage comes from many, >>>>>>>>>>>> many years >>>>>>>>>>>> of disproportionate treatment and does not need much to surface. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I don't really understand how looting helps the cause. I know >>>>>>>>>>>> unequivocally when there is a crime being committed people call >>>>>>>>>>>> police and >>>>>>>>>>>> not looting mobs to come help. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe the North Koreans can show us what true peace is in the >>>>>>>>>>>> happy place of the Great Leader! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 4:20:45 PM UTC-5, archytas wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Much is fit only for ridicule Gabby. As for the positive >>>>>>>>>>>>> pounding, my best friend likes those loud Japanese drums as a >>>>>>>>>>>>> prelude to a >>>>>>>>>>>>> few beers. Quite how we get to sense talk instead of newsroom >>>>>>>>>>>>> madness has >>>>>>>>>>>>> troubled me forever, as I'm sure you know. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd have been expected to take Michael Brown down unarmed - >>>>>>>>>>>>> something of a mismatch at 168 versus 290 pounds and a routine >>>>>>>>>>>>> Salford >>>>>>>>>>>>> Saturday night. I guess I could have run away until the pink >>>>>>>>>>>>> slime and >>>>>>>>>>>>> doughnuts tired him out and I could get a tow-truck to transport >>>>>>>>>>>>> him to the >>>>>>>>>>>>> Crescent. Even armed I tended not to shoot people, fearing weeks >>>>>>>>>>>>> of paper >>>>>>>>>>>>> work more than the odd knife graze. Quite why cops were supposed >>>>>>>>>>>>> to put >>>>>>>>>>>>> their bodies on the line instead of just shooting bad guys I'm >>>>>>>>>>>>> not sure. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't get the race thing at all, here or in the US other >>>>>>>>>>>>> than as Tony says. Smacking a cop in the mouth seems pretty >>>>>>>>>>>>> 'racist' to >>>>>>>>>>>>> me. The US situation looks a lot like Northern Ireland to me - >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> Catholics had genuine civil rights issues there on housing, jobs >>>>>>>>>>>>> and lousy >>>>>>>>>>>>> treatment. These were not addressed directly either. The >>>>>>>>>>>>> investigation >>>>>>>>>>>>> into Wilson's actions look reasonable and speedy compared with >>>>>>>>>>>>> here and >>>>>>>>>>>>> much more open. This seems to no avail. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> One very noticeable thing in the US investigations is >>>>>>>>>>>>> knowledge of the limitations of cops accounts of their shootings >>>>>>>>>>>>> on such as >>>>>>>>>>>>> the number of rounds fired and recall ability. Here our cops are >>>>>>>>>>>>> taught to >>>>>>>>>>>>> parrot the Manual of Guidance on the care with which each shot is >>>>>>>>>>>>> aimed and >>>>>>>>>>>>> fired with perfect memory. And our cops are allowed to refuse to >>>>>>>>>>>>> answer >>>>>>>>>>>>> questions and collude on answers. Thus our cops lie to make >>>>>>>>>>>>> their stories >>>>>>>>>>>>> look like the textbook and match each other. I don't get the >>>>>>>>>>>>> logic of >>>>>>>>>>>>> 'black guy dead, burn Tottenham or Ferguson'. Or that of 'the >>>>>>>>>>>>> Establishment is corrupt, cure this by lynching a cop who has >>>>>>>>>>>>> shot a crook'. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 3:34:07 PM UTC, facilitator >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The media consistently wanted this to be about race. It >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wasn't. Change the demographics of either the cop or the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> deceased and this >>>>>>>>>>>>>> story would not have been in the news at all. 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