If Mr Brightsight was able to understand what that little devil is actually saying on signing he might tell me so I could act, at least to the point of leaving the action to Molly, who does most of the work. German and UK police rarely shoot people.
Given your action perspective, perhaps you should 'stick to your guns' and get out disarming crime? We could all sleep soundly in our panic rooms then. Or we could let the poor little waifs likely to be shot by existing police do the policing. No doubt you could have soothed the mad, naked man with a knife outside your Town Hall last year and I would have shot him to protect nearby children and myself. http://www.dw.de/why-german-police-officers-rarely-reach-for-their-guns/a-17884779 These 'victims' are not 'our' children and the numbers pale against the killings in Afghanistan, Iraq and the centuries of imperial war. We hardly seem to get out of our chattering class habits on what is done to our actual children in such as schools and the vile neo-liberal enterprise. Personally I am very happy to still have my little devil around. > > Am Samstag, 29. November 2014 schrieb archytas : > >> That only calls into question whether we can tell an angel from a devil >> Gabbs. I guess we have to keep fusion reactions from grounding to earth >> and could do with getting them working. In the spin of current dialogue >> one seems to meet only a spiral of devils smearing bimbolene about. I >> can't help thinking the killing of various minor criminals by cops is what >> we need to be protesting about. >> >> On Friday, November 28, 2014 2:52:10 PM UTC, Gabby wrote: >>> >>> Learning to hear Pink, Lesson 1: Angelic voices never touch the ground, >>> Neil, for it would break their wings. They go in resonance with those who >>> can hear. Hear the angelic and not the luciferian, mind the difference! >>> >>> On Thursday, November 27, 2014 2:19:53 PM UTC+1, archytas wrote: >>>> >>>> I sometimes find Molly's bubbles as 'pink' as Gabby. Yet Molly is >>>> never as pink as, say, this academic view - http://www.uk.sagepub.com/ >>>> rowe2e/study/Journal%20Articles/CHAPTER3_Race% >>>> 20Class-2013-Fekete-65-76.pdf >>>> >>>> There are some important points even 'in the pink'. And I can't >>>> remember Molly ever saying shifting the spiritual ground being anything >>>> other than difficult - or that shifting racism and other material problems >>>> can be done by not admitting what they are. One of the reasons I like >>>> both >>>> these people is they can give as good as they get. We are in the middle >>>> of >>>> a spate of child sexual exploitation investigations with celebrities, >>>> politicians, Pakistani and Somali 'heritage' perpetrators in the UK. This >>>> is not racist policing - the history is one of poor policing and cover up >>>> - >>>> as the link says, the secrecy involved is very disturbing and deeply >>>> embedded in our legal system. The necessary conditions for pink solutions >>>> may well include fair and reliable policing, though in the black we might >>>> have a good laugh watching politically correct heroes doing the job with a >>>> few side bets on their life expectancy. >>>> >>>> On Thursday, November 27, 2014 12:28:16 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I agree with you RP souls do not listen to the inner voice, it is the >>>>> satisfaction of today's pleasures that they are driven toward by the >>>>> common >>>>> communications of our world. Look at he the entertainment and promises >>>>> made. >>>>> >>>>> لا القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد أو إيذاء الآخرين >>>>> Do not murder, rape, enslave or harm others >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: RP Singh <[email protected]> >>>>> To: Minds Eye <[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 11:03 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Ferguson Missouri >>>>> >>>>> Allan , the problem is that people don't believe their inner voice, >>>>> they believe in worldly attachments and work or prey for their >>>>> satisfaction. >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 1:12 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> لا القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد أو إيذاء الآخرين >>>>>> Do not murder, rape, enslave or harm others >>>>>> >>>>>> A start , from there you need cooperation, all souls know the >>>>>> guidelines of do no harm, but do people listen, to that the answer is >>>>>> yes >>>>>> they do. They listen only to what they want to hear and what benefits >>>>>> them. >>>>>> The Gospel of Woe is well sung and recited daily. The problem with >>>>>> version >>>>>> of life's view is it gives no answers that provide direction. >>>>>> >>>>>> Oh Woe is me echoes through out the world. There are many gospels but >>>>>> I am thinking that one is the most widely followed! >>>>>> >>>>>> And for you Gabby I am not sure on the accuracy of the translation: >>>>>> nicht Mord, Vergewaltigung, Versklavung oder andere schädigen. >>>>>> >>>>>> لا القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد أو إيذاء الآخرين >>>>>> Do not murder, rape, enslave or harm others >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: Molly <[email protected]> >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Sent: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 12:04 AM >>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Ferguson Missouri >>>>>> >>>>>> The unheard rage of those individuals dominated in dire circumstance >>>>>> or as a group over the eons is heard in echos in distant news or, for >>>>>> sensitive souls, deep within. It is up to each of us to find that place >>>>>> of >>>>>> hate and violence within us, and move beyond it into peace. Until we >>>>>> do, >>>>>> railing against a machine that churns out horror will do no good. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wednesday, November 26, 2014 11:25:33 AM UTC-5, archytas wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No sense, anyone, of Ferguson and the wider protests as an American >>>>>>> spring? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wednesday, November 26, 2014 3:41:15 PM UTC, archytas wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No Idea what the male number is Gabby - is it a bit like the >>>>>>>> opposite of what those women hanging around newsrooms do? I am male >>>>>>>> I'm >>>>>>>> afraid, so am stuck with such as my feet not being the first thing I >>>>>>>> see >>>>>>>> looking down in the shower. Of course, I'm old enough now to be more >>>>>>>> concerned about keeping my feet working. For the record, the thinking >>>>>>>> itself indestructible younger me would have taken on Mike Brown going >>>>>>>> forward, believing some young big punk couldn't hack a fit rugby >>>>>>>> league >>>>>>>> player half his size. Sorry to be so shrill my dear. I never made >>>>>>>> new man >>>>>>>> status, believing women capable of seeing through such crude >>>>>>>> deceptions, >>>>>>>> even as they fell wildly under the strategy. We might consider what >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> reaction would have been had Brown been shot by an 8 stone female cop >>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>> my ex-partner Mary. I'll get back in the kitchen and shut the door so >>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>> can't hear me being shrill then me dear. At least you are admitting >>>>>>>> we men >>>>>>>> can count these days, even if we do our number in shrill voice. >>>>>>>> *Je vous adresse mon très amical souvenir c**haleureusement, comme >>>>>>>> meme.* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wednesday, November 26, 2014 2:21:40 PM UTC, Gabby wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Your class consciousness is very well audible. When you do the >>>>>>>>> mate number you still need to tone down a lot. It sounds shrill, Neil. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Am 26.11.2014 um 14:24 schrieb archytas <[email protected]>: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Some interesting views at the Post Gabby. I'm generally not keen >>>>>>>>> to extrapolate from criminal mentalities on social problems, yet >>>>>>>>> these >>>>>>>>> problems almost must be multi-faceted and thus not amenable to >>>>>>>>> fascist >>>>>>>>> analysis through slogan. Much of my experience with black people >>>>>>>>> came >>>>>>>>> through cricket (great) and being a cop (good, bad, indifferent) or >>>>>>>>> university teacher (as stupid and unreliable as the rest of the >>>>>>>>> class?). A >>>>>>>>> university friend took me to his village in what was then Zaire. I >>>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>> only say any discussion I've heard on ethnic rights since is so >>>>>>>>> constrained >>>>>>>>> by political correctness slogans as to be both fascist and based on >>>>>>>>> presenting the face of Goody-two-shoes. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Rage against the machine? Not well directed if true - and I feel >>>>>>>>> it is. I'm amazed there isn't more rage generally. I'd work with >>>>>>>>> what >>>>>>>>> I've seen of Darren Wilson ahead of the looters for sure - yet I >>>>>>>>> always >>>>>>>>> wondered why cops like me and him had to do the public order thing >>>>>>>>> for the >>>>>>>>> Establishment without much consideration. This had me defending the >>>>>>>>> right >>>>>>>>> of some Nazi to parade through Stockport. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The idea that any human beings are less racist on race grounds is >>>>>>>>> so dumb only someone with a PC infection could come up with it. And >>>>>>>>> much >>>>>>>>> as I don't like the figures on prison populations I'm sick of race >>>>>>>>> explanations. Men are imprisoned far more than women. Let's make >>>>>>>>> that a >>>>>>>>> gender rights issue!! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Obama is white Tony - just one of the mobiles in my black brush >>>>>>>>> collection. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, 26 November 2014 12:10:36 UTC, Molly wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Detroit retail never fully recovered from the 67 riots created by >>>>>>>>>> the same kind of circumstance. The stores that closed having lost >>>>>>>>>> everything with no faith that it wouldn't keep happening. The racial >>>>>>>>>> divide >>>>>>>>>> has played out here in many horrendous ways over the years, >>>>>>>>>> including a >>>>>>>>>> "black power" city government being instructed by the mayor to do no >>>>>>>>>> business with white owned companies. The ethnocentrism was finally >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> demise of the exclusionary government that fell into deep corruption >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> bankruptcy. I see both sides and neither are healthy until the city >>>>>>>>>> is seen >>>>>>>>>> as a whole including all and part of the rest of the world. Through >>>>>>>>>> all of >>>>>>>>>> it, it has somehow remained a driving force in global economy and >>>>>>>>>> culture. >>>>>>>>>> Tribal societies no longer function on large scale and examples of >>>>>>>>>> this can >>>>>>>>>> be seen all over the world. The reluctance of each of us to see >>>>>>>>>> beyond >>>>>>>>>> color and history lies at the heart of the problem. Grace Lee Boggs >>>>>>>>>> fascinates me because her story runs the gamut of descent, rebel, >>>>>>>>>> revolutionary, community leader that unites, finding her way from >>>>>>>>>> divisive >>>>>>>>>> messages to unifying actions. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 8:29:24 PM UTC-5, facilitator wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The anger I can partially understand since the messiah in the >>>>>>>>>>> White House has had little or negative impact on the average black >>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>> "Partially United States". The seething rage comes from many, many >>>>>>>>>>> years >>>>>>>>>>> of disproportionate treatment and does not need much to surface. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I don't really understand how looting helps the cause. I know >>>>>>>>>>> unequivocally when there is a crime being committed people call >>>>>>>>>>> police and >>>>>>>>>>> not looting mobs to come help. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Maybe the North Koreans can show us what true peace is in the >>>>>>>>>>> happy place of the Great Leader! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 4:20:45 PM UTC-5, archytas wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Much is fit only for ridicule Gabby. As for the positive >>>>>>>>>>>> pounding, my best friend likes those loud Japanese drums as a >>>>>>>>>>>> prelude to a >>>>>>>>>>>> few beers. Quite how we get to sense talk instead of newsroom >>>>>>>>>>>> madness has >>>>>>>>>>>> troubled me forever, as I'm sure you know. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'd have been expected to take Michael Brown down unarmed - >>>>>>>>>>>> something of a mismatch at 168 versus 290 pounds and a routine >>>>>>>>>>>> Salford >>>>>>>>>>>> Saturday night. I guess I could have run away until the pink >>>>>>>>>>>> slime and >>>>>>>>>>>> doughnuts tired him out and I could get a tow-truck to transport >>>>>>>>>>>> him to the >>>>>>>>>>>> Crescent. Even armed I tended not to shoot people, fearing weeks >>>>>>>>>>>> of paper >>>>>>>>>>>> work more than the odd knife graze. Quite why cops were supposed >>>>>>>>>>>> to put >>>>>>>>>>>> their bodies on the line instead of just shooting bad guys I'm not >>>>>>>>>>>> sure. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I don't get the race thing at all, here or in the US other than >>>>>>>>>>>> as Tony says. Smacking a cop in the mouth seems pretty 'racist' >>>>>>>>>>>> to me. >>>>>>>>>>>> The US situation looks a lot like Northern Ireland to me - the >>>>>>>>>>>> Catholics >>>>>>>>>>>> had genuine civil rights issues there on housing, jobs and lousy >>>>>>>>>>>> treatment. These were not addressed directly either. The >>>>>>>>>>>> investigation >>>>>>>>>>>> into Wilson's actions look reasonable and speedy compared with >>>>>>>>>>>> here and >>>>>>>>>>>> much more open. This seems to no avail. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> One very noticeable thing in the US investigations is knowledge >>>>>>>>>>>> of the limitations of cops accounts of their shootings on such as >>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> number of rounds fired and recall ability. Here our cops are >>>>>>>>>>>> taught to >>>>>>>>>>>> parrot the Manual of Guidance on the care with which each shot is >>>>>>>>>>>> aimed and >>>>>>>>>>>> fired with perfect memory. And our cops are allowed to refuse to >>>>>>>>>>>> answer >>>>>>>>>>>> questions and collude on answers. Thus our cops lie to make their >>>>>>>>>>>> stories >>>>>>>>>>>> look like the textbook and match each other. I don't get the >>>>>>>>>>>> logic of >>>>>>>>>>>> 'black guy dead, burn Tottenham or Ferguson'. Or that of 'the >>>>>>>>>>>> Establishment is corrupt, cure this by lynching a cop who has shot >>>>>>>>>>>> a crook'. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 3:34:07 PM UTC, facilitator wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The media consistently wanted this to be about race. It >>>>>>>>>>>>> wasn't. Change the demographics of either the cop or the >>>>>>>>>>>>> deceased and this >>>>>>>>>>>>> story would not have been in the news at all. The problem is the >>>>>>>>>>>>> premiss. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Our system allows a Grand Jury to decide if charges are to be >>>>>>>>>>>>> rendered. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I have been on two Grand Juries and we all took these matters >>>>>>>>>>>>> very seriously. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in >>>>>>>>> the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/ >>>>>>>>> topic/minds-eye/II9hZsHPsPs/unsubscribe. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email >>>>>>>>> to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> --- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> --- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>> -- >> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >> Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/minds-eye/II9hZsHPsPs/unsubscribe. >> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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