That only calls into question whether we can tell an angel from a devil Gabbs. I guess we have to keep fusion reactions from grounding to earth and could do with getting them working. In the spin of current dialogue one seems to meet only a spiral of devils smearing bimbolene about. I can't help thinking the killing of various minor criminals by cops is what we need to be protesting about.
On Friday, November 28, 2014 2:52:10 PM UTC, Gabby wrote: > > Learning to hear Pink, Lesson 1: Angelic voices never touch the ground, > Neil, for it would break their wings. They go in resonance with those who > can hear. Hear the angelic and not the luciferian, mind the difference! > > On Thursday, November 27, 2014 2:19:53 PM UTC+1, archytas wrote: >> >> I sometimes find Molly's bubbles as 'pink' as Gabby. Yet Molly is never >> as pink as, say, this academic view - >> http://www.uk.sagepub.com/rowe2e/study/Journal%20Articles/CHAPTER3_Race%20Class-2013-Fekete-65-76.pdf >> >> There are some important points even 'in the pink'. And I can't remember >> Molly ever saying shifting the spiritual ground being anything other than >> difficult - or that shifting racism and other material problems can be done >> by not admitting what they are. One of the reasons I like both these >> people is they can give as good as they get. We are in the middle of a >> spate of child sexual exploitation investigations with celebrities, >> politicians, Pakistani and Somali 'heritage' perpetrators in the UK. This >> is not racist policing - the history is one of poor policing and cover up - >> as the link says, the secrecy involved is very disturbing and deeply >> embedded in our legal system. The necessary conditions for pink solutions >> may well include fair and reliable policing, though in the black we might >> have a good laugh watching politically correct heroes doing the job with a >> few side bets on their life expectancy. >> >> On Thursday, November 27, 2014 12:28:16 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: >>> >>> I agree with you RP souls do not listen to the inner voice, it is the >>> satisfaction of today's pleasures that they are driven toward by the common >>> communications of our world. Look at he the entertainment and promises >>> made. >>> >>> لا القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد أو إيذاء الآخرين >>> Do not murder, rape, enslave or harm others >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: RP Singh <[email protected]> >>> To: Minds Eye <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 11:03 AM >>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Ferguson Missouri >>> >>> Allan , the problem is that people don't believe their inner voice, they >>> believe in worldly attachments and work or prey for their satisfaction. >>> >>> On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 1:12 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> لا القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد أو إيذاء الآخرين >>>> Do not murder, rape, enslave or harm others >>>> >>>> A start , from there you need cooperation, all souls know the >>>> guidelines of do no harm, but do people listen, to that the answer is yes >>>> they do. They listen only to what they want to hear and what benefits >>>> them. >>>> The Gospel of Woe is well sung and recited daily. The problem with version >>>> of life's view is it gives no answers that provide direction. >>>> >>>> Oh Woe is me echoes through out the world. There are many gospels but I >>>> am thinking that one is the most widely followed! >>>> >>>> And for you Gabby I am not sure on the accuracy of the translation: >>>> nicht Mord, Vergewaltigung, Versklavung oder andere schädigen. >>>> >>>> لا القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد أو إيذاء الآخرين >>>> Do not murder, rape, enslave or harm others >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Molly <[email protected]> >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Sent: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 12:04 AM >>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Ferguson Missouri >>>> >>>> The unheard rage of those individuals dominated in dire circumstance or >>>> as a group over the eons is heard in echos in distant news or, for >>>> sensitive souls, deep within. It is up to each of us to find that place of >>>> hate and violence within us, and move beyond it into peace. Until we do, >>>> railing against a machine that churns out horror will do no good. >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, November 26, 2014 11:25:33 AM UTC-5, archytas wrote: >>>>> >>>>> No sense, anyone, of Ferguson and the wider protests as an American >>>>> spring? >>>>> >>>>> On Wednesday, November 26, 2014 3:41:15 PM UTC, archytas wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> No Idea what the male number is Gabby - is it a bit like the opposite >>>>>> of what those women hanging around newsrooms do? I am male I'm afraid, >>>>>> so >>>>>> am stuck with such as my feet not being the first thing I see looking >>>>>> down >>>>>> in the shower. Of course, I'm old enough now to be more concerned about >>>>>> keeping my feet working. For the record, the thinking itself >>>>>> indestructible younger me would have taken on Mike Brown going forward, >>>>>> believing some young big punk couldn't hack a fit rugby league player >>>>>> half >>>>>> his size. Sorry to be so shrill my dear. I never made new man status, >>>>>> believing women capable of seeing through such crude deceptions, even as >>>>>> they fell wildly under the strategy. We might consider what the >>>>>> reaction >>>>>> would have been had Brown been shot by an 8 stone female cop like my >>>>>> ex-partner Mary. I'll get back in the kitchen and shut the door so you >>>>>> can't hear me being shrill then me dear. At least you are admitting we >>>>>> men >>>>>> can count these days, even if we do our number in shrill voice. >>>>>> *Je vous adresse mon très amical souvenir c**haleureusement, comme >>>>>> meme.* >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wednesday, November 26, 2014 2:21:40 PM UTC, Gabby wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Your class consciousness is very well audible. When you do the mate >>>>>>> number you still need to tone down a lot. It sounds shrill, Neil. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Am 26.11.2014 um 14:24 schrieb archytas <[email protected]>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Some interesting views at the Post Gabby. I'm generally not keen to >>>>>>> extrapolate from criminal mentalities on social problems, yet these >>>>>>> problems almost must be multi-faceted and thus not amenable to fascist >>>>>>> analysis through slogan. Much of my experience with black people came >>>>>>> through cricket (great) and being a cop (good, bad, indifferent) or >>>>>>> university teacher (as stupid and unreliable as the rest of the >>>>>>> class?). A >>>>>>> university friend took me to his village in what was then Zaire. I can >>>>>>> only say any discussion I've heard on ethnic rights since is so >>>>>>> constrained >>>>>>> by political correctness slogans as to be both fascist and based on >>>>>>> presenting the face of Goody-two-shoes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Rage against the machine? Not well directed if true - and I feel it >>>>>>> is. I'm amazed there isn't more rage generally. I'd work with what >>>>>>> I've >>>>>>> seen of Darren Wilson ahead of the looters for sure - yet I always >>>>>>> wondered >>>>>>> why cops like me and him had to do the public order thing for the >>>>>>> Establishment without much consideration. This had me defending the >>>>>>> right >>>>>>> of some Nazi to parade through Stockport. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The idea that any human beings are less racist on race grounds is so >>>>>>> dumb only someone with a PC infection could come up with it. And much >>>>>>> as I >>>>>>> don't like the figures on prison populations I'm sick of race >>>>>>> explanations. Men are imprisoned far more than women. Let's make that >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> gender rights issue!! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Obama is white Tony - just one of the mobiles in my black brush >>>>>>> collection. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wednesday, 26 November 2014 12:10:36 UTC, Molly wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Detroit retail never fully recovered from the 67 riots created by >>>>>>>> the same kind of circumstance. The stores that closed having lost >>>>>>>> everything with no faith that it wouldn't keep happening. The racial >>>>>>>> divide >>>>>>>> has played out here in many horrendous ways over the years, including >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> "black power" city government being instructed by the mayor to do no >>>>>>>> business with white owned companies. The ethnocentrism was finally the >>>>>>>> demise of the exclusionary government that fell into deep corruption >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> bankruptcy. I see both sides and neither are healthy until the city is >>>>>>>> seen >>>>>>>> as a whole including all and part of the rest of the world. Through >>>>>>>> all of >>>>>>>> it, it has somehow remained a driving force in global economy and >>>>>>>> culture. >>>>>>>> Tribal societies no longer function on large scale and examples of >>>>>>>> this can >>>>>>>> be seen all over the world. The reluctance of each of us to see beyond >>>>>>>> color and history lies at the heart of the problem. Grace Lee Boggs >>>>>>>> fascinates me because her story runs the gamut of descent, rebel, >>>>>>>> revolutionary, community leader that unites, finding her way from >>>>>>>> divisive >>>>>>>> messages to unifying actions. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 8:29:24 PM UTC-5, facilitator wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The anger I can partially understand since the messiah in the >>>>>>>>> White House has had little or negative impact on the average black in >>>>>>>>> "Partially United States". The seething rage comes from many, many >>>>>>>>> years >>>>>>>>> of disproportionate treatment and does not need much to surface. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I don't really understand how looting helps the cause. I know >>>>>>>>> unequivocally when there is a crime being committed people call >>>>>>>>> police and >>>>>>>>> not looting mobs to come help. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Maybe the North Koreans can show us what true peace is in the >>>>>>>>> happy place of the Great Leader! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 4:20:45 PM UTC-5, archytas wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Much is fit only for ridicule Gabby. As for the positive >>>>>>>>>> pounding, my best friend likes those loud Japanese drums as a >>>>>>>>>> prelude to a >>>>>>>>>> few beers. Quite how we get to sense talk instead of newsroom >>>>>>>>>> madness has >>>>>>>>>> troubled me forever, as I'm sure you know. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'd have been expected to take Michael Brown down unarmed - >>>>>>>>>> something of a mismatch at 168 versus 290 pounds and a routine >>>>>>>>>> Salford >>>>>>>>>> Saturday night. I guess I could have run away until the pink slime >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> doughnuts tired him out and I could get a tow-truck to transport him >>>>>>>>>> to the >>>>>>>>>> Crescent. Even armed I tended not to shoot people, fearing weeks of >>>>>>>>>> paper >>>>>>>>>> work more than the odd knife graze. Quite why cops were supposed to >>>>>>>>>> put >>>>>>>>>> their bodies on the line instead of just shooting bad guys I'm not >>>>>>>>>> sure. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I don't get the race thing at all, here or in the US other than >>>>>>>>>> as Tony says. Smacking a cop in the mouth seems pretty 'racist' to >>>>>>>>>> me. >>>>>>>>>> The US situation looks a lot like Northern Ireland to me - the >>>>>>>>>> Catholics >>>>>>>>>> had genuine civil rights issues there on housing, jobs and lousy >>>>>>>>>> treatment. These were not addressed directly either. The >>>>>>>>>> investigation >>>>>>>>>> into Wilson's actions look reasonable and speedy compared with here >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> much more open. This seems to no avail. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> One very noticeable thing in the US investigations is knowledge >>>>>>>>>> of the limitations of cops accounts of their shootings on such as >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> number of rounds fired and recall ability. Here our cops are taught >>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>> parrot the Manual of Guidance on the care with which each shot is >>>>>>>>>> aimed and >>>>>>>>>> fired with perfect memory. And our cops are allowed to refuse to >>>>>>>>>> answer >>>>>>>>>> questions and collude on answers. Thus our cops lie to make their >>>>>>>>>> stories >>>>>>>>>> look like the textbook and match each other. I don't get the logic >>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>> 'black guy dead, burn Tottenham or Ferguson'. Or that of 'the >>>>>>>>>> Establishment is corrupt, cure this by lynching a cop who has shot a >>>>>>>>>> crook'. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 3:34:07 PM UTC, facilitator wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The media consistently wanted this to be about race. It wasn't. >>>>>>>>>>> Change the demographics of either the cop or the deceased and this >>>>>>>>>>> story >>>>>>>>>>> would not have been in the news at all. The problem is the >>>>>>>>>>> premiss. Our >>>>>>>>>>> system allows a Grand Jury to decide if charges are to be rendered. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I have been on two Grand Juries and we all took these matters >>>>>>>>>>> very seriously. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in >>>>>>> the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/ >>>>>>> topic/minds-eye/II9hZsHPsPs/unsubscribe. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>> >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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