A lady friend in India who is really into Hinduism and puts up with me has taught me alot about her beliefs.. if I would chose to differences are easy to find. When it comes to beliefs including mine are not much more than a bunch of circus monkeys included. Mostly it is perspective.. especially when it comes to beliefs. You have to take everything into consideration. To the question. In Hinduism as I understand it everything comes from the uncreated God and returns to the uncreated God. I have no problems with that idea.. Now from a scientific perspective the laws say that you can neither create nor destroy matter only change to a different form but it still exists in some manner ¿God's law?
This brings up an interesting question created by the big bang theory ... where did all the matter that is contained within the total universe come from. No violating known and mostly some what provable laws. (Starting point) Now making an ass out of you and me we can assume this law to be valid and true the question comes down to where did all of the matter contained within the known universe come from???? The answer I found is the same as the one found in Hinduism everything comes from and returns to the uncreated God .. Now that I have stirred up the muddy water making everything as clear as mud. It is not a textbook answer. تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others -----Original Message----- From: RP Singh <[email protected]> To: Minds Eye <[email protected]> Sent: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 4:28 PM Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: History Allan, would you care to tell me how the universe is part of God's being? Is this not some sort of bookish ranting? On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 7:11 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > As for omnipotent is is often used i do not even see it in relationship > with the uncreated God. Although used it just does not fit.. Why? God is > not seperate from the universe. The universe is only part of God's being. > > تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين > Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres > Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others > > -----Original Message----- > From: RP Singh <[email protected]> > To: Minds Eye <[email protected]> > Sent: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 1:50 PM > Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: History > > Allan , man is free to do just as he wants to , but God being omnipotent > has to sanction it beforehand , and that is what is predetermined , the > will of God over and above the will of man. > > On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 5:31 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Am still trying to figure out you predestiny theory. To me it sounds >> like nothing more than someone trying to justify improper activites by >> blaming predestiny instead of taking responsibility. >> You said the samething years ago blaming your beliefs. >> >> Nice to read you here again maybe some of the other oldtimers will >> return also. >> >> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >> Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres >> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: archytas <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 12:53 PM >> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: History >> >> Very cunning RP - as ever. >> >> On Sunday, January 18, 2015 at 6:19:43 AM UTC, RP Singh wrote: >>> >>> Thanks Neil. I just don't seem to elaborate , it is in the course of the >>> discussions that the elaborations come out. >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 9:27 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> This is rather similar to the maths of the other side of big bang RP. >>>> Assuming a big crunch after our expansion, which would lead to another big >>>> bang, what survives from this to the next? Quantum fluctuation was the >>>> answer in the maths, mind in your suggestion here. Neil Turok was a name >>>> in the papers I read, but ideas producing no answers seems the name of the >>>> game. More recently I've seen suggestions big bangs create another >>>> universe with time going 'backwards', known as the 'more than one future' >>>> approach. Others suggest biggle bang itself is fictional and arises from >>>> religious creationism we haven't managed to extirpate from our thinking - >>>> thus we should be thinking 'closer to home' on the constructors in a new >>>> thermodynamics of what pathways are possible and not. Examples of these >>>> constructors are factories and catalysts. Factories may be those familiar >>>> to us or ribosomes. Catalysts are more complex than the stuff of school >>>> chemistry. >>>> >>>> Slime moulds have been interesting me recently. These are >>>> single-celled 'brainless' organisms we can only safely describe as neither >>>> plant nor animal. Yet they form networks as complex are our railway >>>> systems. We don't really know how they have the intelligence to search for >>>> food. >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwKuFREOgmo >>>> >>>> Great stuff RP - but can you unwind it a bit more? In another sense, >>>> both of us have been rather biologically deterministic on 'brain producing >>>> mind' in human psychology. >>>> >>>> On Sunday, January 18, 2015 at 12:31:10 AM UTC, RP Singh wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The entire creation is predetermined , it is history.Before the big >>>>> bang the history existed in the form of an idea in the singularity. With >>>>> the big bang the history started manifesting itself as creation It is >>>>> simply the unmanifest which is manifesting. 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