Matter is subject to the laws of God.. but even those are not totally know. The totality of far beyond what i can comprehend. What glimpses i have there is no way i can fully understand the totality of God. What it really cones down to is what ever satisfies your personal monkeys. . That is why there are so many different beliefs out there. There is no one answer that fits all.
تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others -----Original Message----- From: RP Singh <[email protected]> To: Minds Eye <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 1:30 AM Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: History If the universe were a part of God's being then by logic it would be under God's control , and you being a part of the universe would be under his control , that is, your will would be subject to God's will. On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 2:37 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > I do not remember mentioning missing matter.. or missing anti-matter. > What has to do with RP's valid question. Nothing is missing at all > everything is there. . Ever consider that science does not know all the > answers? Actually like science spirituality has far more questions than it > has answers.. > > The question was a simple question of how i connected the universe as part > of God's being.. that I tried to explain the best I could.. > > Buzz Lightyear quote.. to infinity and beyond.. it seems your science is > not able to see beyond infinity.. nor can it see what happens to an > electron in the nanosecond while it changes orbits. Or is it even the same > electron. Far more is unknown than what is known... > > I would have voted to get rid of the queen also.. with the British > proceeds of crime act.. all british royalty are flat broke.. > > > > > تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين > Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres > Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others > > -----Original Message----- > From: archytas <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 8:03 PM > Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: History > > Brilliant! Postcards from friends on holiday with unicorns No one puts > up with Allan - there is such a thing as masochism - but apart from this I > could wear the rest, possibly at a fancy dress party. On the basis of god > assertions, rocking horse droppings provide the 'missing matter'. > > If we put aside the 'putting up with Allan' theory and my own madness on > not wanting to be in a universe without his humour, biggy bang is a zero > sum. Zero returns to zero over time. Zero, like infinity may come in > different sizes and is one of many unicorn notions in mathematics, as > fictional, but not as good with a sword, as Zorro. > > The missing matter and energy we currently call "dark" (96%) arises from > assumptions (unicorn) of a universe flying apart faster than gravity > (unicorn) should be allowing it to and lack of enough matter we can see to > explain other gravitational effects we can see. It all gets back to > concepts like whether Allan is interested in Hinduism per se or pretty > ladies evincing it; or both! It's all about "exotic matters" in the end Al. > > We have not had free will since inhaling the pheromones of the slaver ants > that run the planet. Don't you guys read the physics papers I post links > to in full expectation that you will. Einstein's field equations as > modified by dark matter and energy were in the one by Ma and Wong, making > Allan's question irrelevant to everyone else in class who bothered to read > the paper. Or was it Mo and Wang? > > > > On Sunday, 18 January 2015 16:21:40 UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: >> >> A lady friend in India who is really into Hinduism and puts up with me >> has taught me alot about her beliefs.. if I would chose to differences are >> easy to find. When it comes to beliefs including mine are not much more >> than a bunch of circus monkeys included. >> Mostly it is perspective.. especially when it comes to beliefs. You have >> to take everything into consideration. To the question. In Hinduism as I >> understand it everything comes from the uncreated God and returns to the >> uncreated God. I have no problems with that idea.. >> Now from a scientific perspective the laws say that you can neither >> create nor destroy matter only change to a different form but it still >> exists in some manner ¿God's law? >> >> This brings up an interesting question created by the big bang theory ... >> where did all the matter that is contained within the total universe come >> from. No violating known and mostly some what provable laws. (Starting >> point) >> Now making an ass out of you and me we can assume this law to be valid >> and true the question comes down to where did all of the matter contained >> within the known universe come from???? >> >> The answer I found is the same as the one found in Hinduism everything >> comes from and returns to the uncreated God .. >> >> Now that I have stirred up the muddy water making everything as clear as >> mud. It is not a textbook answer. >> >> >> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >> Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres >> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: RP Singh <[email protected]> >> To: Minds Eye <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 4:28 PM >> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: History >> >> Allan, would you care to tell me how the universe is part of God's being? >> Is this not some sort of bookish ranting? >> >> On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 7:11 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> As for omnipotent is is often used i do not even see it in relationship >>> with the uncreated God. Although used it just does not fit.. Why? God is >>> not seperate from the universe. The universe is only part of God's being. >>> >>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>> Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres >>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: RP Singh <[email protected]> >>> To: Minds Eye <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 1:50 PM >>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: History >>> >>> Allan , man is free to do just as he wants to , but God being omnipotent >>> has to sanction it beforehand , and that is what is predetermined , the >>> will of God over and above the will of man. >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 5:31 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Am still trying to figure out you predestiny theory. To me it sounds >>>> like nothing more than someone trying to justify improper activites by >>>> blaming predestiny instead of taking responsibility. >>>> You said the samething years ago blaming your beliefs. >>>> >>>> Nice to read you here again maybe some of the other oldtimers will >>>> return also. >>>> >>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>> Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres >>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Sent: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 12:53 PM >>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: History >>>> >>>> Very cunning RP - as ever. >>>> >>>> On Sunday, January 18, 2015 at 6:19:43 AM UTC, RP Singh wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Thanks Neil. I just don't seem to elaborate , it is in the course of >>>>> the discussions that the elaborations come out. >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 9:27 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> This is rather similar to the maths of the other side of big bang >>>>>> RP. Assuming a big crunch after our expansion, which would lead to >>>>>> another >>>>>> big bang, what survives from this to the next? Quantum fluctuation was >>>>>> the >>>>>> answer in the maths, mind in your suggestion here. Neil Turok was a name >>>>>> in the papers I read, but ideas producing no answers seems the name of >>>>>> the >>>>>> game. More recently I've seen suggestions big bangs create another >>>>>> universe with time going 'backwards', known as the 'more than one future' >>>>>> approach. Others suggest biggle bang itself is fictional and arises from >>>>>> religious creationism we haven't managed to extirpate from our thinking - >>>>>> thus we should be thinking 'closer to home' on the constructors in a new >>>>>> thermodynamics of what pathways are possible and not. Examples of these >>>>>> constructors are factories and catalysts. Factories may be those >>>>>> familiar >>>>>> to us or ribosomes. Catalysts are more complex than the stuff of school >>>>>> chemistry. >>>>>> >>>>>> Slime moulds have been interesting me recently. These are >>>>>> single-celled 'brainless' organisms we can only safely describe as >>>>>> neither >>>>>> plant nor animal. Yet they form networks as complex are our railway >>>>>> systems. We don't really know how they have the intelligence to search >>>>>> for >>>>>> food. >>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwKuFREOgmo >>>>>> >>>>>> Great stuff RP - but can you unwind it a bit more? In another sense, >>>>>> both of us have been rather biologically deterministic on 'brain >>>>>> producing >>>>>> mind' in human psychology. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sunday, January 18, 2015 at 12:31:10 AM UTC, RP Singh wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The entire creation is predetermined , it is history.Before the big >>>>>>> bang the history existed in the form of an idea in the singularity. >>>>>>> With >>>>>>> the big bang the history started manifesting itself as creation It is >>>>>>> simply the unmanifest which is manifesting. 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