You get the patent then Chris. We'll go to one of those bars with a two gallon minimum and a fruit based cocktail selection for the lady. Gabby can play the role of the jilted female inventor, forgotten in hisstory, slipping vodka into her prune juice, as we fight off international investors to keep the authenticity of the product intact. At least until she goes to the powder room and we run off the the bags of cash.
On Thursday, February 12, 2015 at 5:17:03 PM UTC, Chris Jenkins wrote: > > If we score the patent, drinks are on me! > > On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 12:12 PM, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Does that mean you accept our foolproof methodology to read the details >> carefully and not only follow the sweet sound before you marry? Chris, I'm >> sure you always need money too, let's go and have this patented! >> Chacka-chacka!! >> Am 12.02.2015 18:04 schrieb "archytas" <[email protected]>: >> >>> How utterly super to see the children play. Reminds me of being taught >>> how to use the police national computer in 1976 and playing trains with >>> another bored terminal operator. >>> >>> On Thursday, February 12, 2015 at 3:38:36 PM UTC, Gabby wrote: >>>> >>>> Oh how romantic, you two. Glad you found your room with Mary Moll. :) >>>> >>>> 2015-02-12 15:55 GMT+01:00 archytas <[email protected]>: >>>> >>>> There's an extra aye in there Moll. >>>> >>>> If you think of some of the external processes I investigate and the >>>> internal ones you have explicated (not that either of us is restricted to >>>> either), there is a lot of common ground. Bifurcation is often a 'false >>>> split'. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thursday, February 12, 2015 at 1:00:45 PM UTC, Molly wrote: >>>> >>>> Aye, aye, aye >>>> >>>> On Thursday, February 12, 2015 at 7:29:51 AM UTC-5, archytas wrote: >>>> >>>> Merrie Monk is still brewed by Marstons. Technically a mild, 4.5 abv >>>> but seems to hit harder. Craft beers from micro breweries don't appeal to >>>> me much - we have one round the corner (Banks) with about 7 different >>>> beers >>>> that all taste the same. Mostly badge engineering over here, by Interbrew >>>> - even they are now ab-inbev co the world's largest brewer. Boddies is >>>> now >>>> part of that chain. I swear they have even screwed Stella Artois and have >>>> been advertising it as 'reassuringly expensive'. >>>> They make Bud too. Back in the day, I met the CEO of Stella Artois - >>>> he was tea total. Kind enough to stock my hotel fridge with product >>>> though. >>>> >>>> I'm waiting for the time African beer gets marketed here with small >>>> print 'warning: contains crocodile bile and battery acid' under the >>>> Mumbojawless brand. Beer, apart from a few small brewers, tends to taste >>>> better and cleaner abroad. Nordic friends now get ratted on Lithuanian >>>> hooch before meeting at Ziggy's to sip expensive beer before piling back >>>> to >>>> the barbecue at Sven and Olga's to finish off on Estonian imports. >>>> >>>> I see our new information manager is settling in nicely, already in a >>>> room of her own talking to the walls. The gibberish she has to come up >>>> with is difficult to learn but she has language skills to refine it to >>>> total misinformation with that paranoid edge that keeps people on their >>>> toes lest they slack into actual conversation. I doubt we could have >>>> appointed a better one trick pony. One visit to her room by the >>>> information commissioners and we will never see them again. >>>> >>>> Molly has done nearly all the work. The plan, of course, was always to >>>> lure Gabby to this room and let her exhaust her poisons until no one else >>>> is left, with the last one out pulling the door tightly shut. >>>> >>>> On Thursday, February 12, 2015 at 12:42:29 AM UTC, Chris Jenkins wrote: >>>> >>>> Oh man, Merry Monk is one of my favorites. I'm a sucker for >>>> Tripels...more so for Quadrupels. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 7:40 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Boddingtons' was the favourite bitter back in cop/army days. It was >>>> weak abv, amber, creamy and nectar. Since then big brewers took over, >>>> closed the old brewery and ruined the flavour.darkened the colour and the >>>> flavour went malty. Brings a tear to my eye to drink the much now. >>>> Holt's >>>> bitter was the classic though. Smelled like an old kangaroo's jock-strap >>>> or something Gabby throws in her cauldron. You had to get the first pint >>>> down holding your breath, By about the fourth, it was all cream nectar >>>> and >>>> you just had to make it eight. It was all live beer in 36 gallon barrels >>>> back then, manipulated into cellars by gangs of muscular dwarfs, watched >>>> over for days by a loving but grisly landlord who sank the first edible >>>> pint himself just to let us know who was in charge. Then came pasteurised >>>> beer and lager - and shameful sights like me and Railway Frank >>>> arm-wrestling for the last pint of Merry Monk. I won, but had to let him >>>> have the beer to make up for that. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 at 11:42:45 PM UTC, Chris Jenkins wrote: >>>> >>>> I'm enjoying a Boddie's now; it's no Younger's 2, but it's got a nice >>>> creamy head. I can't find enough of the bitters here though; IPA's are the >>>> frat boy craft beer of choice. >>>> >>>> My good mates live on a 42' single mast now; the children are gone, and >>>> land held no attraction. I've still got another eight years or so before >>>> that becomes a possibility. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 6:34 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Just right for a transportation sentence then. Used to sail. My >>>> balance is crap now. Flying a desk just ain't it. When I was more >>>> actively engaged, some of the best parts involved solitude. I miss that. >>>> Loneliness is not the same thing. Bolton pubs have an air of desperation >>>> now, so I don't bother. The ale is usually cack too. That old fuggy >>>> muggy >>>> behind the sanctity of the pub door has faded to disinfectant and stale >>>> food smells. And I used to smoke when drinking. Not the same without. >>>> Plus 'young punk' violence is much worse now. >>>> >>>> I still get out to sea a couple of times a year on a mate's fishing >>>> smack. His quota days have just increased from 4 to 5 days a month. >>>> There's no living in it any more. Due out with him at the end of the >>>> month >>>> and will probably resume normal beer service then. Theakston's Old >>>> Peculiar and another black beer, Younger's No 2 are a treat when properly >>>> creamy. You'd still be sucking the stuff in from that facial appendage >>>> the >>>> following day. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 at 11:02:09 PM UTC, Chris Jenkins wrote: >>>> >>>> My pony tail and beard are built for the sea, but I skipper a desk >>>> chair, more to my chagrin. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 5:52 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Who are you calling an old pirate, Blackbeard? And what kind of >>>> nancy-boy pubs where they let woman in other than to be barmaids 'ave ye >>>> been drinkin' in? >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 at 10:28:39 PM UTC, Chris Jenkins wrote: >>>> >>>> Only to an old pirate. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 5:26 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Has anyone else noticed that a colon and a right parenthesis look like >>>> a symbol for a cut-throat razor? :) >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, 11 February 2015 22:19:52 UTC, Chris Jenkins wrote: >>>> >>>> No justifications, dear Gabs. Just a correction. :) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 4:58 PM, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Oh yes, What, who, whose questions are being ommitted is quite telling. >>>> There is a geometry in that too, of course. I explicitly said no blaming, >>>> and you come up with justifications?! For what? Yes, we were close to my >>>> wish come true, but then Facil appeared and it all started again. There is >>>> nothing I can do about it from where I sit. ;) >>>> >>>> Am Mittwoch, 11. Februar 2015 schrieb Chris Jenkins : >>>> >>>> Oh, how quickly time muddles the recollection...perhaps you should go >>>> back and review some of those posts before I left. It was for the same >>>> reason Craig did, and had nothing to do with the legacy nature of an email >>>> list. I was overloaded between job and family, and simply couldn't keep up >>>> with the volume of communication (a strike against your assertion I left >>>> because I knew it was an outdated format). There were hundreds of posts, >>>> some of them quite combative (*ahem*), and any action taken by mods to >>>> keep >>>> the list adhering to its original intent was met with a hearty round of >>>> "fuck you matey". It was draining. >>>> >>>> My goodbye: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/minds-ey >>>> e/by$20chris/minds-eye/ZQB5vLJ2rSI/0GbRK-9nz-AJ >>>> >>>> Note that I put it to the group to decide, specifically because there >>>> was no other way to effectively determine any sort of self governance, and >>>> I didn't feel I had the right to make an arbitrary decision without input. >>>> >>>> You promptly attacked every facet of my decision (and I expected no >>>> less). There was a long and robust conversation with a ton of familiar >>>> faces (most missing now). Your first vote was for a natural death. Have >>>> you >>>> gotten your wish? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 12:37 PM, gabbydott <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Over a thousand members, 5 actually post? >>>> >>>> >>>> This question coming from you? YOU! Oh come on, Chrissy baby! This is >>>> an outdated format here that doesn't generate much traffic anymore. You >>>> know that, that`s your job to know that, that`s why you quit the mod job >>>> here! No one is blaming you for that but don´t play the innocent here! You >>>> introduced no transparent polling as to who should become your successor, >>>> but lay down your crown to the one who threw his hat in the ring, a method >>>> acceptable for the queen also. Nice try, dear. >>>> >>>> 2015-02-11 17:34 GMT+01:00 Chris Jenkins <[email protected]>: >>>> >>>> Yep, he passed the bar some time ago, which is a big part of why he no >>>> longer had time for these conversations. >>>> >>>> He's not alone in that, apparently. Over a thousand members, 5 actually >>>> post? >>>> >>>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 11:32 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Such charm as ever Gabby. The term paedophile is not well taken here >>>> and may really insult Allan and make him sad. Molly was gone, in the >>>> sense >>>> of 'gone fishin'. Craig was becoming a lawyer. Hope he made it. He was a >>>> Mormon too. >>>> >>>> It would have been nice to hear updates on Bacon. There were eleven >>>> Idols. I expect your superior model incorporates them, or perhaps spits >>>> spleen. We can only be sure of never seeing it. >>>> >>>> We model defeasibly now and use a lot of geometry because a lot of us >>>> think in shape. The idea is to make natural language usable by the >>>> machine. It has even more difficulty making sense of just what humans say >>>> than a pair of paranoid-schizoid positionists. We do consider 'shapes' >>>> like the molygon as underliers in our logic and they are instructive. A >>>> gabbygon is on the horizon - some no doubt thinking this is the best >>>> place. The general theory is called 'bag of words' - we look for shapes >>>> in >>>> text to give context meaning and identify root metaphors. You probably >>>> know how the SNERT stands out like a sore thumb? Maybe accusing old men >>>> and their dogs kind of thing? We are trying to find much more routine >>>> issues in word use to get at some of Tony has described as dishonesty >>>> from >>>> 'bag of words' samples taken from the 'marketplace' and other Idol >>>> conversations. What the machine establishes from metadata - considering >>>> we >>>> often haven't - is fascinating because we are not sure what it i doing at >>>> all. We have it working on the self-justification of psychopaths at the >>>> moment. >>>> >>>> Gravity obviously collapses on seeing a photograph of me. Thanks for >>>> the memory. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 at 3:13:50 PM UTC, Gabby wrote: >>>> >>>> This here is my real lesson. You have been bringing up and pushing this >>>> idol model so many times that I have forgotten what the one was that I >>>> found better. All that I remember is that it was either located in the >>>> alchemy or in the metaphysical poetry context. It was a perfect four is >>>> all >>>> that is left. It has been overwritten by your four idols. >>>> >>>> 2015-02-11 1:35 GMT+01:00 archytas <[email protected]>: >>>> >>>> Francis Bacon classified the intellectual fallacies of his time under >>>> four headings which he called idols. He distinguished them as idols of the >>>> Tribe, idols of the e, idols of the Marketplace and idols of the Theatre. >>>> An idol is an image, in this case held in the mind, which receives >>>> veneration but is without substance in itself. Bacon did not regard idols >>>> as symbols, but rather as fixations. They expand a bit like this: >>>> >>>> 1. Tribe >>>> >>>> The example of desiring to see more order in the universe than is >>>> actually there is one of his examples of an idol of the tribe. He thinks >>>> that we all suffer from that one. >>>> >>>> 2. Cave >>>> >>>> An example of an idol of the cave (one of Bacon's examples) is that >>>> some minds are more drawn to new things and new ideas than they are to >>>> what >>>> has been around for a long time, while other minds are more drawn to >>>> "tradition" and "old school" ideas and ways than they are to newness. >>>> Bacon >>>> thinks we should become aware what our own tendency is so that we can make >>>> corrections for it. He hopes that by becoming aware of our own mind's >>>> tendencies toward loving novelty or tradition that we might be able to >>>> "correct" for them and then hopefully see things more clearly and truly. >>>> >>>> 3. Marketplace >>>> >>>> We often use words very loosely in common discourse. Bacon sees nothing >>>> wrong with that when we are just speaking ordinary language with friends >>>> and family. But, when it comes to trying to describe the world accurately >>>> and precisely, we should be aware of our tendency to use words loosely and >>>> should try to correct for it. When we are trying to speak precisely we >>>> should probably not say things like "The mountain is out today" (anyone >>>> outside of the Puget Sound area wouldn't have a clue what this means); or >>>> "The sun went under a cloud" (the sun did not go anywhere, let along >>>> underneath something); or "The sun came up this morning" (the earth >>>> >>>> ... >>> >>> -- >>> >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>> Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/minds-eye/2_ICOWzarWY/unsubscribe. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> -- >> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> ""Minds Eye"" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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