It isn't that bleak Allan.  Andrew has the basic description right.  People 
generally refuse to see the bigger picture these developments are exposing.

On Tuesday, February 17, 2015 at 6:34:02 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
>
> Dream on Andrew, sorry and I already your are going to say I am full of 
> shit,,  by it is okay..  all own source is good for is ease in hacking.. I 
> will watch people do the delusional twisters.
> A few people will always maintain machine language you are lucky because 
> they are not interested in delusional dead.. beware through he people who 
> will employ them are rue control freaks. The safety net is within numbers 
> and time, the segmentation ability is where the secret lies..
>
>
> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: andrew vecsey <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 5:57 PM
> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: What could the internet be?
>
> You can get a better explanation of the blockchain from the internet than 
> I can give you. But as I like to simplify complicated things, I will give 
> it a try. The blockchain is a public ledger that is kept by volunteers. The 
> volunteers document transactions made by users.The ledger is verifyied by 
> consensus of the volunteers. The the only way that ledger can be falsified 
> is that 51% of the volunteers that maintain the ledger all have to agree to 
> a falsified version of the ledger. The users broadcast a transaction they 
> want to include in that ledger, and the volunteers transcribe that 
> transactions in that ledger.  There is no centralized point of control, as 
> the ledger is distributed by the volunteers.  The transactions can be 
> Bitcoins, a cryptocurrency that apparently can not be falsified due to the 
> encryption it uses, or any other transactions, like ownership of assets, or 
> contracts. The blockchain is refereed to as a "trust-less system" in that 
> you do not have to trust a centralized authority to maintain that ledger, 
> as there are none. The protocol that is used for the blockchain is an open 
> source program that prevents anyone compromising that protocol without 
> everyone else knowing about any changes that might compromise it. The 
> entire system is of course very complicated. The main aspects that allow 
> such a system to be implemented is the mathematics of cryptology, the 
> internet, the distributed network of computers, and geeks that maintain 
> that network not because they want to hack or control it, but because they 
> want to keep it honest. I hope that helps. 
>
> On Tuesday, February 17, 2015 at 3:56:22 PM UTC+1, Gabby wrote:
>>
>> I am interested in empowerment tools. What is the blockchain technology, 
>> Andrew? First what it is and then what is does, okay? Thanks.
>>
>> Am Dienstag, 17. Februar 2015 schrieb andrew vecsey :
>>
>>> I have been thinking about your post Niel. 
>>> The internet connects people via their computers. That is very 
>>> empowering. especially to the owners of centralized computers that offer 
>>> porn, entertainment,  commerce and information. It is however the 
>>> decentralized form of the internet that is truly empowering, enabling 
>>> people globally to freely communicate and share information without the 
>>> control of centralized powers.  The blockchain technology is the most 
>>> empowering. It frees people to make money transactions without banks, legal 
>>> transactions without lawyers, and allows people to vote and voice their 
>>> opinions without politicians.     
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 13, 2015 at 3:41:22 PM UTC+1, archytas wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Most of my use of the internet concerns researching pretty dire 
>>>> academic papers and books through still largely restricted access.  It's 
>>>> much cheaper than buying the stuff directly, particularly as 99% of what 
>>>> shows up is dross.  I've played with the rest to find out what is there.  
>>>> Search is a big plus compared with rooting through stuff in a university 
>>>> library.  Now, much google search just turns up dross I don't want.
>>>>
>>>> In an academic project we are interested in what is on the net 
>>>> generally - in terms of how much of general consciousness this represents. 
>>>>  
>>>> Rational discussion is a tiny part of what is on the net.  Techies spend a 
>>>> lot of time looking for cut and paste code and ways we might automate this 
>>>> sweep.  There is a background idea that we are looking for new ways to do 
>>>> 'expert knowledge' on the metaphor of people not being able to build cars 
>>>> but able to drive them with a bit of training.  My own bad is 'big data' 
>>>> as 
>>>> a new language that would bring a different speed to human discourse and 
>>>> potentially control of the means of production.
>>>>
>>>> Lately, I'm interested in the lack of a business model for anything 
>>>> except trash.  I can join a site where a couple of young women will send 
>>>> me 
>>>> off-the-peg clothes on approval to ensure my sartorial elegance, though 
>>>> don't.  There are plenty of interesting Moochs, but I don't have time.  I 
>>>> bank n line and have the joy of never seeing a bank clerk. Shopping can be 
>>>> done in the same manner as shops don't interest me at all.  My insurance 
>>>> renewals are always 30% higher than I can get the same cover for via one 
>>>> of 
>>>> the broker sites on the day.
>>>>
>>>> I do electronic teaching.  So I'm no longer racked by whatever diseases 
>>>> undergraduate classes try to kill me with.  And I never see a boss or have 
>>>> to attend a useless staff meeting, or have my classes flooded as the 
>>>> students discover I'm an easier touch and tell jokes.  The work is more or 
>>>> less pre-prepared and my timetable is not changed at ridiculous short 
>>>> notice and I don't have to take time to teach kids from other classes, at 
>>>> my door because they can't get anywhere with the guy supposed to help.
>>>>
>>>> I can watch television and films through illegal sites, but would 
>>>> really prefer to pay for channels where I could select from much wider 
>>>> material without packaging.  The current business model encourages loads 
>>>> of 
>>>> channels with the same (usually old) dross, or stuff like Netflix with 
>>>> only 
>>>> 1% I'd want to see and don't want to pay to support.  Sports channels 
>>>> require me to pay for soccer I don't want.  Tony has done more for me in a 
>>>> few minutes (neglecting his production time) than Sky Arts bores ever 
>>>> could.  We lack a business model of actual choice.  With one, insanestream 
>>>> news and other entertainment, the crap science pornography of the BBC, 
>>>> Discovery and so on, would be things of my past.  In chronic business 
>>>> terms, I wonder how they do market segmentation at all.  I am sick of Blue 
>>>> Peter (kids programme here) presentation.
>>>>
>>>> One can imagine plenty of people like the best through this group 
>>>> wanting something very different and something large enough not to be a 
>>>> part of when time presses and so on.  Uber, properly supervised against 
>>>> racist drivers, could bring very radical change - I meet few who can 
>>>> explain why - though we have not yet worked out that technology could 
>>>> massively reduce what we currently call work and planet burning.  In the 
>>>> meantime we can't even set up a discussion group without Gabby (and 
>>>> everyone really) worrying on the curtain shades.  Give us a twirl then 
>>>> girl, like one of those doxies Bruce Forsythe used to encourage.  I can 
>>>> see 
>>>> something of a business model, starting with Chris' 'attractors'.  The 
>>>> eventual key is content for a sophisticated audience - remembering very 
>>>> few 
>>>> people do education without any kind of accreditation pay-off and the 
>>>> means 
>>>> to pay for organisation does not move easily from free.  Current 
>>>> strategies 
>>>> are advertising and the begging bowl.
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
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