We'll, if that is how you want to pay your bills.. Have fun, l recall when Andrew became excited about bitcoin the said value was in the 1000 € = 1 bitcoin.. Just looked up the value it is 211 € .. Let me help you pay your bills you give me 1000 euro and in a few days I will give you 211 € back.. Good deal right? When I first looked into bitcoin (when it first came out) you could buy 2 for less than a Euro.. My question really is how many euro did Andrew lose.. They would not let me create a small wallet so I cold sell my jewelry.. Now I was not allowed to create a wallet, found out later it was due to questionable activities. But if you like looking at short term.. Have fun. And I am called a zombie.. lol
تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others -----Original Message----- From: gabbydott <[email protected]> To: minds-eye <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 9:51 PM Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: What could the internet be? Let's make this a third person case and say people need money. They need money pay their bills. Please don't be so hard on them, dear Allan. 2015-02-17 21:15 GMT+01:00 <[email protected]>: > If you worship money.... > My memory is saying it is not worth anything for data storage and > reterival and that is what computers are about.. In 1977 I walked away from > programming.. > Can be fun if and that is a big if.. > Do you like long hours and extreme focus and the edge of sanity. The > research projects were interesting.. > > > تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين > Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others > > -----Original Message----- > From: archytas <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 8:31 PM > Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: What could the internet be? > > It isn't that bleak Allan. Andrew has the basic description right. > People generally refuse to see the bigger picture these developments are > exposing. > > On Tuesday, February 17, 2015 at 6:34:02 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: > > Dream on Andrew, sorry and I already your are going to say I am full of > shit,, by it is okay.. all own source is good for is ease in hacking.. I > will watch people do the delusional twisters. > A few people will always maintain machine language you are lucky because > they are not interested in delusional dead.. beware through he people who > will employ them are rue control freaks. The safety net is within numbers > and time, the segmentation ability is where the secret lies.. > > > تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين > Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others > > -----Original Message----- > From: andrew vecsey <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 5:57 PM > Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: What could the internet be? > > You can get a better explanation of the blockchain from the internet than > I can give you. But as I like to simplify complicated things, I will give > it a try. The blockchain is a public ledger that is kept by volunteers. The > volunteers document transactions made by users.The ledger is verifyied by > consensus of the volunteers. The the only way that ledger can be falsified > is that 51% of the volunteers that maintain the ledger all have to agree to > a falsified version of the ledger. The users broadcast a transaction they > want to include in that ledger, and the volunteers transcribe that > transactions in that ledger. There is no centralized point of control, as > the ledger is distributed by the volunteers. The transactions can be > Bitcoins, a cryptocurrency that apparently can not be falsified due to the > encryption it uses, or any other transactions, like ownership of assets, or > contracts. The blockchain is refereed to as a "trust-less system" in that > you do not have to trust a centralized authority to maintain that ledger, > as there are none. The protocol that is used for the blockchain is an open > source program that prevents anyone compromising that protocol without > everyone else knowing about any changes that might compromise it. The > entire system is of course very complicated. The main aspects that allow > such a system to be implemented is the mathematics of cryptology, the > internet, the distributed network of computers, and geeks that maintain > that network not because they want to hack or control it, but because they > want to keep it honest. I hope that helps. > > On Tuesday, February 17, 2015 at 3:56:22 PM UTC+1, Gabby wrote: > > I am interested in empowerment tools. What is the blockchain technology, > Andrew? First what it is and then what is does, okay? Thanks. > > Am Dienstag, 17. Februar 2015 schrieb andrew vecsey : > > I have been thinking about your post Niel. > The internet connects people via their computers. That is very empowering. > especially to the owners of centralized computers that offer porn, > entertainment, commerce and information. It is however the decentralized > form of the internet that is truly empowering, enabling people globally to > freely communicate and share information without the control of centralized > powers. The blockchain technology is the most empowering. It frees people > to make money transactions without banks, legal transactions without > lawyers, and allows people to vote and voice their opinions without > politicians. > > On Friday, February 13, 2015 at 3:41:22 PM UTC+1, archytas wrote: > > Most of my use of the internet concerns researching pretty dire > academic papers and books through still largely restricted access. It's > much cheaper than buying the stuff directly, particularly as 99% of what > shows up is dross. I've played with the rest to find out what is there. > Search is a big plus compared with rooting through stuff in a university > library. Now, much google search just turns up dross I don't want. > > > In an academic project we are interested in what is on the net generally - > in terms of how much of general consciousness this represents. Rational > discussion is a tiny part of what is on the net. Techies spend a lot of > time looking for cut and paste code and ways we might automate this sweep. > There is a background idea that we are looking for new ways to do 'expert > knowledge' on the metaphor of people not being able to build cars but able > to drive them with a bit of training. My own bad is 'big data' as a new > language that would bring a different speed to human discourse and > potentially control of the means of production. > > > Lately, I'm interested in the lack of a business model for anything except > trash. I can join a site where a couple of young women will send me > off-the-peg clothes on approval to ensure my sartorial elegance, though > don't. There are plenty of interesting Moochs, but I don't have time. I > bank n line and have the joy of never seeing a bank clerk. Shopping can be > done in the same manner as shops don't interest me at all. My insurance > renewals are always 30% higher than I can get the same cover for via one of > the broker sites on the day. > > > I do electronic teaching. So I'm no longer racked by whatever diseases > undergraduate classes try to kill me with. And I never see a boss or have > to attend a useless staff meeting, or have my classes flooded as the > students discover I'm an easier touch and tell jokes. The work is more or > less pre-prepared and my timetable is not changed at ridiculous short > notice and I don't have to take time to teach kids from other classes, at > my door because they can't get anywhere with the guy supposed to help. > > > I can watch television and films through illegal sites, but would really > prefer to pay for channels where I could select from much wider material > without packaging. The current business model encourages loads of channels > with the same (usually old) dross, or stuff like Netflix with only 1% I'd > want to see and don't want to pay to support. Sports channels require me > to pay for soccer I don't want. Tony has done more for me in a few minutes > (neglecting his production time) than Sky Arts bores ever could. We lack a > business model of actual choice. With one, insanestream news and other > entertainment, the crap science pornography of the BBC, Discovery and so > on, would be things of my past. In chronic business terms, I wonder how > they do market segmentation at all. I am sick of Blue Peter (kids > programme here) presentation. > > > One can imagine plenty of people like the best through this group wanting > something very different and something large enough not to be a part of > when time presses and so on. Uber, properly supervised against racist > drivers, could bring very radical change - I meet few who can explain why - > though we have not yet worked out that technology could massively reduce > what we currently call work and planet burning. In the meantime we can't > even set up a discussion group without Gabby (and everyone really) worrying > on the curtain shades. Give us a twirl then girl, like one of those doxies > Bruce Forsythe used to encourage. I can see something of a business model, > starting with Chris' 'attractors'. The eventual key is content for a > sophisticated audience - remembering very few people do education without > any kind of accreditation pay-off and the means to pay for organisation > does not move easily from free. 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