The purpose of the halo is to draw attention.. To the Person or being in the 
picture or drawing. It does not mean that it exist in physical life.. It is 
simply a symbol of honor.

تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others

-----Original Message-----
From: RP Singh <[email protected]>
To: Minds Eye <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 2:55 PM
Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Einstein and the Mystics

But I don't see any around you, my friend!

On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 7:13 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

> I think you need to check the paintings of Indian deities. Looks like a
> lot of halos to me.
>
> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RP Singh <[email protected]>
> To: Minds Eye <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 2:27 PM
> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Einstein and the Mystics
>
> What can be gained by the experience, it is a lot of hard work and takes
> much time. You can see Molly, Vam and many others, they are just like us,
> at least I don't see any halo around them, maybe you do. We have so many
> responsibilities in this world and instead of taking care of them we are
> engaged in this fruitless exercise. We need to have our priorities right!
>
> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 11:45 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Certainly logic in that RP.  Physics has got very interested
>> (speculatively) on observer-observed 'interactions' and quantum-jumping in
>> 4 sheets of space-time shadows of 8 dimensions and a role for dark matter
>> in biology.  You have to be pretty clever to follow it and pretty dumb to
>> think you understand it, and that understanding requires some sort of
>> notion of ourselves as electro-magnetic fields in instantaneous connection
>> with distant aliens (these claims on a non-scientific basis are found in
>> some 'primitive dreamtimes') - as well as more material-organic.  Someone
>> was standing next to me when I saw my Mongol horde and she didn't see it.
>> My mind distinctly placed the scene as 'outside me' yet clearly it was
>> inside my virtual space.
>>
>> There has long been talk of misplaced concreteness and the bifurcation of
>> reality (AN Whitehead here, deep in Eastern history).  Reality is
>> structured and so is the concept of duality. Rapture and bliss may be good
>> for us like breast-feeding, but seem unlikely as much other than a
>> variation in human experience.  However, I do think some kind of first
>> contact might be made, even in trying to have such experience.
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 18, 2015 at 3:48:25 AM UTC, RP Singh wrote:
>>>
>>> The state of bliss or rapture is just a state of awareness of a human
>>> being, it cannot be called non-dual or God-state. If you look at the very
>>> word 'non-dual' it means absence of two and in effect one. In any state of
>>> consciousness or awareness there are always two--the observer and the
>>> observation, there is the one that is aware and the bliss or rapture.
>>> Non-dual expresses a singularity, the 'ONE', where there is no other, in
>>> effect a state beyond consciousness or maybe just a permanent state of
>>> unconsciousness. It is not death but the supreme state from which the
>>> entire creation streams out following the big bang or whatever.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 4:17 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Indeed you are a god to me Tony - just don't fall on my spot at the
>>>> bottom of the precipice or break Allan's coffee machine on the way down.
>>>> One could fall to grace.  The Russians stopped drilling into the Earth's
>>>> core at about 8 miles.  Some believe this was because they could hear the
>>>> screams from Hell.  In fact, their drill just hit a pot of Allan's double
>>>> espresso and Gabby was scalded on the floor below.  We have had to keep the
>>>> trap-door shut since then, though we now get messages she has made her own
>>>> hope and sunshine,
>>>>
>>>> If the mystics are mystic, why do they keep copying each other like
>>>> management textbook writers and gurus?  I sort of want something different
>>>> and if I had the experience would be really pissed off if I could only
>>>> describe it as though I'd just come out of a Tom Perter's session.  Of
>>>> course, I haven't be purified yet or got a licence to fly the higher
>>>> plane.  If it's VTOL I promise to drop by and take you on the ride.
>>>>
>>>> There has to be more to mysticism than the Soylent Green type and the
>>>> sales pitchers of its nutritional value.  Maths with no numbers does a bit
>>>> of it for me, but as we know, Allan zeroes out.  We use light to remind
>>>> mice about good times and they return to them.  Thought a lot on Andrew's
>>>> framework down by the river.  A couple of young girls were hugging Zak -
>>>> his now rather done in back legs got a temporary cure and he bounded with
>>>> the mystic eyes of pleasure for a bit.  Max went to round the old guy up so
>>>> we could go home, but the girls' dad was telling them about river otters,
>>>> so we stayed a while.  To the girls' delight, the dogs went into the river
>>>> to demonstrate.  It's out there somewhere.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 9:35:33 PM UTC, facilitator wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I happen to be very humble.  Sometimes proud of it.   I did not answer
>>>>> myself.  Anyone reading that has to resharpen their senses so as to make a
>>>>> more simple response quite profound.
>>>>>
>>>>> Clearly their is something at work here which requires me know to
>>>>> "adjust" my dispenser orifice.  My narcissistic arrogance was not present
>>>>> at that age since I mostly found myself fighting off gangs from other
>>>>> blocks in my urban neighborhood.  Very little time to think past which
>>>>> alley way is the quickest route home. Being careful not to become cynical,
>>>>> I weave my way around and find no alley way. Expounding on this any 
>>>>> further
>>>>> would probably cheapen the experience. Fascinating!   Thinking there might
>>>>> be a deity involved would be a first step, thinking I might be my own 
>>>>> deity
>>>>> is not a step but a precipice.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 5:13:36 PM UTC-4, archytas wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Knowing more than Tony is easy.  Like Zaphod Beeblebrox, his ego is
>>>>>> bigger than imagination from a slice of Proust's angel cake that took him
>>>>>> back to an aunty's.  Using such power to visit an aunt reveals a lack of
>>>>>> knowledge or a very dull boy.  As Tony cannot be the latter, one presumes
>>>>>> the former, though this does not exclude the possibility his ego is 
>>>>>> bigger
>>>>>> than the universe itself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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