If that is the case why don't they have halos around so many dead
dignitaries like the American Presidents, Indian Prime Ministers and social
activists?

On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 7:37 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

> The purpose of the halo is to draw attention.. To the Person or being in
> the picture or drawing. It does not mean that it exist in physical life..
> It is simply a symbol of honor.
>
> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RP Singh <[email protected]>
> To: Minds Eye <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 2:55 PM
> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Einstein and the Mystics
>
> But I don't see any around you, my friend!
>
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 7:13 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I think you need to check the paintings of Indian deities. Looks like a
>> lot of halos to me.
>>
>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: RP Singh <[email protected]>
>> To: Minds Eye <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 2:27 PM
>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Einstein and the Mystics
>>
>> What can be gained by the experience, it is a lot of hard work and takes
>> much time. You can see Molly, Vam and many others, they are just like us,
>> at least I don't see any halo around them, maybe you do. We have so many
>> responsibilities in this world and instead of taking care of them we are
>> engaged in this fruitless exercise. We need to have our priorities right!
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 11:45 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Certainly logic in that RP.  Physics has got very interested
>>> (speculatively) on observer-observed 'interactions' and quantum-jumping in
>>> 4 sheets of space-time shadows of 8 dimensions and a role for dark matter
>>> in biology.  You have to be pretty clever to follow it and pretty dumb to
>>> think you understand it, and that understanding requires some sort of
>>> notion of ourselves as electro-magnetic fields in instantaneous connection
>>> with distant aliens (these claims on a non-scientific basis are found in
>>> some 'primitive dreamtimes') - as well as more material-organic.  Someone
>>> was standing next to me when I saw my Mongol horde and she didn't see it.
>>> My mind distinctly placed the scene as 'outside me' yet clearly it was
>>> inside my virtual space.
>>>
>>> There has long been talk of misplaced concreteness and the bifurcation
>>> of reality (AN Whitehead here, deep in Eastern history).  Reality is
>>> structured and so is the concept of duality. Rapture and bliss may be good
>>> for us like breast-feeding, but seem unlikely as much other than a
>>> variation in human experience.  However, I do think some kind of first
>>> contact might be made, even in trying to have such experience.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 18, 2015 at 3:48:25 AM UTC, RP Singh wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The state of bliss or rapture is just a state of awareness of a human
>>>> being, it cannot be called non-dual or God-state. If you look at the very
>>>> word 'non-dual' it means absence of two and in effect one. In any state of
>>>> consciousness or awareness there are always two--the observer and the
>>>> observation, there is the one that is aware and the bliss or rapture.
>>>> Non-dual expresses a singularity, the 'ONE', where there is no other, in
>>>> effect a state beyond consciousness or maybe just a permanent state of
>>>> unconsciousness. It is not death but the supreme state from which the
>>>> entire creation streams out following the big bang or whatever.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 4:17 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Indeed you are a god to me Tony - just don't fall on my spot at the
>>>>> bottom of the precipice or break Allan's coffee machine on the way down.
>>>>> One could fall to grace.  The Russians stopped drilling into the Earth's
>>>>> core at about 8 miles.  Some believe this was because they could hear the
>>>>> screams from Hell.  In fact, their drill just hit a pot of Allan's double
>>>>> espresso and Gabby was scalded on the floor below.  We have had to keep 
>>>>> the
>>>>> trap-door shut since then, though we now get messages she has made her own
>>>>> hope and sunshine,
>>>>>
>>>>> If the mystics are mystic, why do they keep copying each other like
>>>>> management textbook writers and gurus?  I sort of want something different
>>>>> and if I had the experience would be really pissed off if I could only
>>>>> describe it as though I'd just come out of a Tom Perter's session.  Of
>>>>> course, I haven't be purified yet or got a licence to fly the higher
>>>>> plane.  If it's VTOL I promise to drop by and take you on the ride.
>>>>>
>>>>> There has to be more to mysticism than the Soylent Green type and the
>>>>> sales pitchers of its nutritional value.  Maths with no numbers does a bit
>>>>> of it for me, but as we know, Allan zeroes out.  We use light to remind
>>>>> mice about good times and they return to them.  Thought a lot on Andrew's
>>>>> framework down by the river.  A couple of young girls were hugging Zak -
>>>>> his now rather done in back legs got a temporary cure and he bounded with
>>>>> the mystic eyes of pleasure for a bit.  Max went to round the old guy up 
>>>>> so
>>>>> we could go home, but the girls' dad was telling them about river otters,
>>>>> so we stayed a while.  To the girls' delight, the dogs went into the river
>>>>> to demonstrate.  It's out there somewhere.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 9:35:33 PM UTC, facilitator wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I happen to be very humble.  Sometimes proud of it.   I did not
>>>>>> answer myself.  Anyone reading that has to resharpen their senses so as 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> make a more simple response quite profound.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Clearly their is something at work here which requires me know to
>>>>>> "adjust" my dispenser orifice.  My narcissistic arrogance was not present
>>>>>> at that age since I mostly found myself fighting off gangs from other
>>>>>> blocks in my urban neighborhood.  Very little time to think past which
>>>>>> alley way is the quickest route home. Being careful not to become 
>>>>>> cynical,
>>>>>> I weave my way around and find no alley way. Expounding on this any 
>>>>>> further
>>>>>> would probably cheapen the experience. Fascinating!   Thinking there 
>>>>>> might
>>>>>> be a deity involved would be a first step, thinking I might be my own 
>>>>>> deity
>>>>>> is not a step but a precipice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 5:13:36 PM UTC-4, archytas wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Knowing more than Tony is easy.  Like Zaphod Beeblebrox, his ego is
>>>>>>> bigger than imagination from a slice of Proust's angel cake that took 
>>>>>>> him
>>>>>>> back to an aunty's.  Using such power to visit an aunt reveals a lack of
>>>>>>> knowledge or a very dull boy.  As Tony cannot be the latter, one 
>>>>>>> presumes
>>>>>>> the former, though this does not exclude the possibility his ego is 
>>>>>>> bigger
>>>>>>> than the universe itself.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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