Not artists, my friend, but people like you.

On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 9:51 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

> Ask the artist.
>
>
> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RP Singh <[email protected]>
> To: Minds Eye <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 4:20 PM
> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Einstein and the Mystics
>
> I don't see why religious people should be honored , how and in what way
> are doctors, engineers and social activists inferior to your God-knowers?
>
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 8:28 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> What I have been trying to tell you is halos are and artist rendition
>> type of thing.  Have little or nothing about reality.
>> Why not let people just be people and not read ideas into images..
>>
>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: RP Singh <[email protected]>
>> To: Minds Eye <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 3:43 PM
>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Einstein and the Mystics
>>
>> By your reasoning people who talk a lot about God, about their experience
>> of God are holy people! I have known a lot of such people to be thieves and
>> vagabonds thriving on the gullibility of the masses, Osho was one such and
>> was rightly booted out of the States. Maybe I should put a halo around you
>> because you claim to have met God three times.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 7:58 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Do you think a lot of the political leaders of today should be admired
>>> and follow their moral behavior..
>>>
>>> What you just said is thieves are murders should be admired..
>>>
>>>
>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: RP Singh <[email protected]>
>>> To: Minds Eye <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 3:18 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Einstein and the Mystics
>>>
>>> If that is the case why don't they have halos around so many dead
>>> dignitaries like the American Presidents, Indian Prime Ministers and social
>>> activists?
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 7:37 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The purpose of the halo is to draw attention.. To the Person or being
>>>> in the picture or drawing. It does not mean that it exist in physical
>>>> life.. It is simply a symbol of honor.
>>>>
>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: RP Singh <[email protected]>
>>>> To: Minds Eye <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 2:55 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Einstein and the Mystics
>>>>
>>>> But I don't see any around you, my friend!
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 7:13 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I think you need to check the paintings of Indian deities. Looks like
>>>>> a lot of halos to me.
>>>>>
>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: RP Singh <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: Minds Eye <[email protected]>
>>>>> Sent: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 2:27 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Einstein and the Mystics
>>>>>
>>>>> What can be gained by the experience, it is a lot of hard work and
>>>>> takes much time. You can see Molly, Vam and many others, they are just 
>>>>> like
>>>>> us, at least I don't see any halo around them, maybe you do. We have so
>>>>> many responsibilities in this world and instead of taking care of them we
>>>>> are engaged in this fruitless exercise. We need to have our priorities
>>>>> right!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 11:45 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Certainly logic in that RP.  Physics has got very interested
>>>>>> (speculatively) on observer-observed 'interactions' and quantum-jumping 
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> 4 sheets of space-time shadows of 8 dimensions and a role for dark matter
>>>>>> in biology.  You have to be pretty clever to follow it and pretty dumb to
>>>>>> think you understand it, and that understanding requires some sort of
>>>>>> notion of ourselves as electro-magnetic fields in instantaneous 
>>>>>> connection
>>>>>> with distant aliens (these claims on a non-scientific basis are found in
>>>>>> some 'primitive dreamtimes') - as well as more material-organic.  Someone
>>>>>> was standing next to me when I saw my Mongol horde and she didn't see it.
>>>>>> My mind distinctly placed the scene as 'outside me' yet clearly it was
>>>>>> inside my virtual space.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There has long been talk of misplaced concreteness and the
>>>>>> bifurcation of reality (AN Whitehead here, deep in Eastern history).
>>>>>> Reality is structured and so is the concept of duality. Rapture and bliss
>>>>>> may be good for us like breast-feeding, but seem unlikely as much other
>>>>>> than a variation in human experience.  However, I do think some kind of
>>>>>> first contact might be made, even in trying to have such experience.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 18, 2015 at 3:48:25 AM UTC, RP Singh wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The state of bliss or rapture is just a state of awareness of a
>>>>>>> human being, it cannot be called non-dual or God-state. If you look at 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> very word 'non-dual' it means absence of two and in effect one. In any
>>>>>>> state of consciousness or awareness there are always two--the observer 
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> the observation, there is the one that is aware and the bliss or 
>>>>>>> rapture.
>>>>>>> Non-dual expresses a singularity, the 'ONE', where there is no other, in
>>>>>>> effect a state beyond consciousness or maybe just a permanent state of
>>>>>>> unconsciousness. It is not death but the supreme state from which the
>>>>>>> entire creation streams out following the big bang or whatever.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 4:17 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Indeed you are a god to me Tony - just don't fall on my spot at the
>>>>>>>> bottom of the precipice or break Allan's coffee machine on the way 
>>>>>>>> down.
>>>>>>>> One could fall to grace.  The Russians stopped drilling into the 
>>>>>>>> Earth's
>>>>>>>> core at about 8 miles.  Some believe this was because they could hear 
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> screams from Hell.  In fact, their drill just hit a pot of Allan's 
>>>>>>>> double
>>>>>>>> espresso and Gabby was scalded on the floor below.  We have had to 
>>>>>>>> keep the
>>>>>>>> trap-door shut since then, though we now get messages she has made her 
>>>>>>>> own
>>>>>>>> hope and sunshine,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If the mystics are mystic, why do they keep copying each other like
>>>>>>>> management textbook writers and gurus?  I sort of want something 
>>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>> and if I had the experience would be really pissed off if I could only
>>>>>>>> describe it as though I'd just come out of a Tom Perter's session.  Of
>>>>>>>> course, I haven't be purified yet or got a licence to fly the higher
>>>>>>>> plane.  If it's VTOL I promise to drop by and take you on the ride.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There has to be more to mysticism than the Soylent Green type and
>>>>>>>> the sales pitchers of its nutritional value.  Maths with no numbers 
>>>>>>>> does a
>>>>>>>> bit of it for me, but as we know, Allan zeroes out.  We use light to 
>>>>>>>> remind
>>>>>>>> mice about good times and they return to them.  Thought a lot on 
>>>>>>>> Andrew's
>>>>>>>> framework down by the river.  A couple of young girls were hugging Zak 
>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>> his now rather done in back legs got a temporary cure and he bounded 
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> the mystic eyes of pleasure for a bit.  Max went to round the old guy 
>>>>>>>> up so
>>>>>>>> we could go home, but the girls' dad was telling them about river 
>>>>>>>> otters,
>>>>>>>> so we stayed a while.  To the girls' delight, the dogs went into the 
>>>>>>>> river
>>>>>>>> to demonstrate.  It's out there somewhere.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 9:35:33 PM UTC, facilitator wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I happen to be very humble.  Sometimes proud of it.   I did not
>>>>>>>>> answer myself.  Anyone reading that has to resharpen their senses so 
>>>>>>>>> as to
>>>>>>>>> make a more simple response quite profound.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Clearly their is something at work here which requires me know to
>>>>>>>>> "adjust" my dispenser orifice.  My narcissistic arrogance was not 
>>>>>>>>> present
>>>>>>>>> at that age since I mostly found myself fighting off gangs from other
>>>>>>>>> blocks in my urban neighborhood.  Very little time to think past which
>>>>>>>>> alley way is the quickest route home. Being careful not to become 
>>>>>>>>> cynical,
>>>>>>>>> I weave my way around and find no alley way. Expounding on this any 
>>>>>>>>> further
>>>>>>>>> would probably cheapen the experience. Fascinating!   Thinking there 
>>>>>>>>> might
>>>>>>>>> be a deity involved would be a first step, thinking I might be my own 
>>>>>>>>> deity
>>>>>>>>> is not a step but a precipice.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 5:13:36 PM UTC-4, archytas wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Knowing more than Tony is easy.  Like Zaphod Beeblebrox, his ego
>>>>>>>>>> is bigger than imagination from a slice of Proust's angel cake that 
>>>>>>>>>> took
>>>>>>>>>> him back to an aunty's.  Using such power to visit an aunt reveals a 
>>>>>>>>>> lack
>>>>>>>>>> of knowledge or a very dull boy.  As Tony cannot be the latter, one
>>>>>>>>>> presumes the former, though this does not exclude the possibility 
>>>>>>>>>> his ego
>>>>>>>>>> is bigger than the universe itself.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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