I am not sure what you want me to ask an artist, but if you mean that I should ask the artists how to interpret their works of art, they should be insulted. They would i think like to believe that there are as many interpretations to their works of art as there are eyes that behold them.
On Thursday, March 19, 2015 at 5:21:27 PM UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote: > > Ask the artist. > > > تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين > Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others > > -----Original Message----- > From: RP Singh <[email protected] <javascript:>> > To: Minds Eye <[email protected] <javascript:>> > Sent: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 4:20 PM > Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Einstein and the Mystics > > I don't see why religious people should be honored , how and in what way > are doctors, engineers and social activists inferior to your God-knowers? > > On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 8:28 PM, <[email protected] <javascript:>> wrote: > >> What I have been trying to tell you is halos are and artist rendition >> type of thing. Have little or nothing about reality. >> Why not let people just be people and not read ideas into images.. >> >> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: RP Singh <[email protected] <javascript:>> >> To: Minds Eye <[email protected] <javascript:>> >> Sent: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 3:43 PM >> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Einstein and the Mystics >> >> By your reasoning people who talk a lot about God, about their experience >> of God are holy people! I have known a lot of such people to be thieves and >> vagabonds thriving on the gullibility of the masses, Osho was one such and >> was rightly booted out of the States. Maybe I should put a halo around you >> because you claim to have met God three times. >> >> On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 7:58 PM, <[email protected] <javascript:>> >> wrote: >> >>> Do you think a lot of the political leaders of today should be admired >>> and follow their moral behavior.. >>> >>> What you just said is thieves are murders should be admired.. >>> >>> >>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: RP Singh <[email protected] <javascript:>> >>> To: Minds Eye <[email protected] <javascript:>> >>> Sent: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 3:18 PM >>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Einstein and the Mystics >>> >>> If that is the case why don't they have halos around so many dead >>> dignitaries like the American Presidents, Indian Prime Ministers and social >>> activists? >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 7:37 PM, <[email protected] <javascript:>> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> The purpose of the halo is to draw attention.. To the Person or being >>>> in the picture or drawing. It does not mean that it exist in physical >>>> life.. It is simply a symbol of honor. >>>> >>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: RP Singh <[email protected] <javascript:>> >>>> To: Minds Eye <[email protected] <javascript:>> >>>> Sent: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 2:55 PM >>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Einstein and the Mystics >>>> >>>> But I don't see any around you, my friend! >>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 7:13 PM, <[email protected] <javascript:>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I think you need to check the paintings of Indian deities. Looks like >>>>> a lot of halos to me. >>>>> >>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: RP Singh <[email protected] <javascript:>> >>>>> To: Minds Eye <[email protected] <javascript:>> >>>>> Sent: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 2:27 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Einstein and the Mystics >>>>> >>>>> What can be gained by the experience, it is a lot of hard work and >>>>> takes much time. You can see Molly, Vam and many others, they are just >>>>> like >>>>> us, at least I don't see any halo around them, maybe you do. We have so >>>>> many responsibilities in this world and instead of taking care of them we >>>>> are engaged in this fruitless exercise. We need to have our priorities >>>>> right! >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 11:45 AM, archytas <[email protected] >>>>> <javascript:>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Certainly logic in that RP. Physics has got very interested >>>>>> (speculatively) on observer-observed 'interactions' and quantum-jumping >>>>>> in >>>>>> 4 sheets of space-time shadows of 8 dimensions and a role for dark >>>>>> matter >>>>>> in biology. You have to be pretty clever to follow it and pretty dumb >>>>>> to >>>>>> think you understand it, and that understanding requires some sort of >>>>>> notion of ourselves as electro-magnetic fields in instantaneous >>>>>> connection >>>>>> with distant aliens (these claims on a non-scientific basis are found in >>>>>> some 'primitive dreamtimes') - as well as more material-organic. >>>>>> Someone >>>>>> was standing next to me when I saw my Mongol horde and she didn't see >>>>>> it. >>>>>> My mind distinctly placed the scene as 'outside me' yet clearly it was >>>>>> inside my virtual space. >>>>>> >>>>>> There has long been talk of misplaced concreteness and the >>>>>> bifurcation of reality (AN Whitehead here, deep in Eastern history). >>>>>> Reality is structured and so is the concept of duality. Rapture and >>>>>> bliss >>>>>> may be good for us like breast-feeding, but seem unlikely as much other >>>>>> than a variation in human experience. However, I do think some kind of >>>>>> first contact might be made, even in trying to have such experience. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wednesday, March 18, 2015 at 3:48:25 AM UTC, RP Singh wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The state of bliss or rapture is just a state of awareness of a >>>>>>> human being, it cannot be called non-dual or God-state. If you look at >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> very word 'non-dual' it means absence of two and in effect one. In any >>>>>>> state of consciousness or awareness there are always two--the observer >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> the observation, there is the one that is aware and the bliss or >>>>>>> rapture. >>>>>>> Non-dual expresses a singularity, the 'ONE', where there is no other, >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> effect a state beyond consciousness or maybe just a permanent state of >>>>>>> unconsciousness. It is not death but the supreme state from which the >>>>>>> entire creation streams out following the big bang or whatever. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 4:17 AM, archytas <[email protected] >>>>>>> <javascript:>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Indeed you are a god to me Tony - just don't fall on my spot at the >>>>>>>> bottom of the precipice or break Allan's coffee machine on the way >>>>>>>> down. >>>>>>>> One could fall to grace. The Russians stopped drilling into the >>>>>>>> Earth's >>>>>>>> core at about 8 miles. Some believe this was because they could hear >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> screams from Hell. In fact, their drill just hit a pot of Allan's >>>>>>>> double >>>>>>>> espresso and Gabby was scalded on the floor below. We have had to >>>>>>>> keep the >>>>>>>> trap-door shut since then, though we now get messages she has made her >>>>>>>> own >>>>>>>> hope and sunshine, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If the mystics are mystic, why do they keep copying each other like >>>>>>>> management textbook writers and gurus? I sort of want something >>>>>>>> different >>>>>>>> and if I had the experience would be really pissed off if I could only >>>>>>>> describe it as though I'd just come out of a Tom Perter's session. Of >>>>>>>> course, I haven't be purified yet or got a licence to fly the higher >>>>>>>> plane. If it's VTOL I promise to drop by and take you on the ride. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There has to be more to mysticism than the Soylent Green type and >>>>>>>> the sales pitchers of its nutritional value. Maths with no numbers >>>>>>>> does a >>>>>>>> bit of it for me, but as we know, Allan zeroes out. We use light to >>>>>>>> remind >>>>>>>> mice about good times and they return to them. Thought a lot on >>>>>>>> Andrew's >>>>>>>> framework down by the river. A couple of young girls were hugging Zak >>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>> his now rather done in back legs got a temporary cure and he bounded >>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>> the mystic eyes of pleasure for a bit. Max went to round the old guy >>>>>>>> up so >>>>>>>> we could go home, but the girls' dad was telling them about river >>>>>>>> otters, >>>>>>>> so we stayed a while. To the girls' delight, the dogs went into the >>>>>>>> river >>>>>>>> to demonstrate. It's out there somewhere. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 9:35:33 PM UTC, facilitator wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I happen to be very humble. Sometimes proud of it. I did not >>>>>>>>> answer myself. Anyone reading that has to resharpen their senses so >>>>>>>>> as to >>>>>>>>> make a more simple response quite profound. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Clearly their is something at work here which requires me know to >>>>>>>>> "adjust" my dispenser orifice. My narcissistic arrogance was not >>>>>>>>> present >>>>>>>>> at that age since I mostly found myself fighting off gangs from other >>>>>>>>> blocks in my urban neighborhood. Very little time to think past >>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>> alley way is the quickest route home. Being careful not to become >>>>>>>>> cynical, >>>>>>>>> I weave my way around and find no alley way. Expounding on this any >>>>>>>>> further >>>>>>>>> would probably cheapen the experience. Fascinating! Thinking there >>>>>>>>> might >>>>>>>>> be a deity involved would be a first step, thinking I might be my own >>>>>>>>> deity >>>>>>>>> is not a step but a precipice. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 5:13:36 PM UTC-4, archytas wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Knowing more than Tony is easy. Like Zaphod Beeblebrox, his ego >>>>>>>>>> is bigger than imagination from a slice of Proust's angel cake that >>>>>>>>>> took >>>>>>>>>> him back to an aunty's. Using such power to visit an aunt reveals a >>>>>>>>>> lack >>>>>>>>>> of knowledge or a very dull boy. As Tony cannot be the latter, one >>>>>>>>>> presumes the former, though this does not exclude the possibility >>>>>>>>>> his ego >>>>>>>>>> is bigger than the universe itself. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> --- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> -- >> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> ""Minds Eye"" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> ""Minds Eye"" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > ""Minds Eye"" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] <javascript:>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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