Well put!

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Andy Pintar <[email protected]> wrote:
> I've been using fluxbox on my 'desktop' machines since the late 90s, and
> it's just as fast as ever.  Text-based config files, you can update
> launching menus via a script if you add new software, and keymappings are
> totally configurable.  Xmodmaps for spanish and french input (making use of
> the windows keys and menu key usefully), can run gnome and kde apps, what's
> not to love?  If you like clicking on icons, it's probably not for you but
> if you want lightweight and don't want to impress your freinds with
> graphical whizzbangs then it's worth a shot.  Stable, lots of themes if
> that's your thing, you can set a background image, and it's faster and more
> stable than any of the big ones.
>
> This whole destop debate starts to sound a lot like the whole windows vs
> linux debate.  And there are those who really want to consider the windows
> user who will want a familiar environment when they switch to linux.  One of
> the great benefits of *ix (or *ux) was that it empowers the user to decide
> what to run/install.  Then Ubuntu came out and everything was easier.  Then
> it got slower and slower.  And then Gnome started cutting out user options,
> making it 'easier' by conforming to a lowest common denominator of 'stupid'.
>  Now there's android which is linux only by kernel, and it's not worth (IMO)
> debating what garbage WM is better as a standard.  It's linux, there are
> choices, I like "a", you like "b", he likes "c".  All this energy wasted on
> this means less time/energy spent on real work.  If you support a userbase,
> figure out what they like, there's your .xinitrc, so you can actualy change
> your WM per user without changing distro...  MAC/APPLE did a great
> disservice to the gnu/linux community by making such a popular and polished
> 'one UI to rule them all' interface. We've been struggling to try and find
> that single linux alternative ever since, forgetting about the benefits of
> variety.
>
> My 2cents anyway...
> Also fluxbox or die.
>
> Also, who wants to run a javascript window manager?  Seriously?  This whole
> gnome shell thing makes my stomach upset.  I'd rather waste cycles doing
> work, not moving windows.
>
> On Wed, 22 Feb 2012, Gary Baribault wrote:
>
>> I gave up and moved to KDE
>>
>> Gary Baribault
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>> On 02/17/2012 01:56 PM, Jeremy wrote:
>>      On 02/17/2012 01:31 PM, Gary Baribault wrote:
>>            it's old, therefore it's no good anymore :-P (I'm
>>            about your age too!)
>>
>> Gary Baribault
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>>      You oldtimers (hey you said it not me) can still have your
>>      gnome2 interface :)
>>
>>      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAT%C3%89_%28desktop_environment%29
>>
>>      I for one welcome our new gnome overlords.
>>
>>      Jeremy
>>
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