On DUNE let's not forget that it plundered ideas from the original project by JODOROWSKY and MOEBIUS, which never started production in Hollywood.
Working title was THE DREAMER OF DUNE, the storyboard is amazing, Dan O'Bannon was working on effects for over a year, along with Giger and Christopher Foss, they had Salvador Dali and Orson Welles and David Carradine for the leads (beneath Jodorowsky himself of course as Duke Leito Atreides), but financing fell through at the end, according to Jodorowsky Hollywood sabotaged it as it was too complex for the studio bosses, after 2 Mill. were spent already. Wolfgang Von: MoPo List [mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von Toochis Morin Gesendet: Montag, 13. Juli 2009 22:19 An: [email protected] Betreff: Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND I agree with JR on these. The opening to War of the Worlds was thrilling. Also Dune is a visual feast of marvel and disgust. It got a rise out of me. Toochis _____ From: Dave Rosen <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 12:48:03 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND Never mind the son. The daughter has to have been one of the most annoying child characters ever to have graced the screen...and I include Baby Leroy in that. Her whiny, high-pitched screaming was one of the many things that marred the movie, along with Tim Robbins extended over-the-top nutbar performance. I liked the first half of the film but found most parts of the second half laughably bad. On the other hand, there were some remarkable set-pieces that are almost worth re-watching the movie for: the car-jacking scene, the ferry scene and the walk through the debris from the crashed airliner. Too bad they weren't in a better movie. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Richard" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND > I agree that Spielberg's War of the Words and the original theatrical release of Dune are both worthy of defense. I still like the original release of Dune better than the subsequent "director's cuts". It was clean, it was direct, it flowed well and it let people who had never read the book understand what the heck was going on. > > As for War of the Worlds... sure, it's flawed in a lot of ways, but still one great ride and so very different from the 1953 film that they are two completely different things. By the way, the reason Tom Cruise's car was the only one that ran was because it was an older model that did not have any computer chips in the ignition system or motor -- the computer chips in all the other vehicles had been fried by the big electro-magnetic pulse the Martians put out. A nice way to get him a car when no one else had one, I thought, although Spielberg did a bad job of explaining it. Some people think it was because the garage guy had fixed the car (replaced the computer chip) after the pulse, but that doesn't fly because the replacement computer chip would have been fried when it was sitting on the garage shelf and so when the mechanic put in it still wouldn't have worked. > > I second the motion that Tom's idiot teenage son should have stayed toast at the end. > > -- JR > > [email protected] wrote: >> I am enjoying this discussion. I always feel the need to defend War of the Worlds (Spielberg's). I think it is a better and more interesting film than most people give it credit for. I firmly believe that the entire film is a dream (e.g. Invaders from Mars)- Tom Cruise's dream. He falls asleep and then everything starts happening. The entire film is an exaggerated nightmare- his worst nightmare- his parental abilities are tested to the extreme. The very beginning of the film lays out the fact that he is a questionable parent at best. Then, throughout the nightmare, he is faced with parents' worst fears realized (best e.g. is the scene where Cruise is simultaneously dealing with strangers trying to take his daughter and his son being pulled inexplicably towards the military- both primal parental fears). By film's end he proves his parental prowess and in one of the most maligned scenes in the film (the last scene) he hand delivers his children back to his wife safe with his judgmental in-laws th! > er! >> e to lay witness. To me this was absolutely Spielberg's intent. Throughout, the film works more in the realm of dream logic (e.g. Cruise's car is the ONLY one that works). If you are still reading, I also find myself defending Kubrick's Eyes Wide Shut for one very specific and unique reason: I firmly believe that the film is one big cosmic joke- a black comedy -that even the critics, as far as I could tell, missed entirely. In the simplest of terms it is a story of a husband who get's so jealous about his wife having an imaginary tryst that he spends the rest of the film trying to get laid and he CAN'T! Mr.Tom-universal-sex-symbol-Cruise cannot get laid! And the most exaggerated case in point is that he ends up going to a super deluxe orgy and he STILL can't get laid. I think Kubrick threw a curve ball at us before he died. 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