Tom,
Just to clear any doubts, and so there won't be any
misunderstandings, I never said that I purchased anything fake
from you, or that you sold any "minty white" inserts to me
or anyone else. I never said any such thing because that's not
the case.
As you pointed out, I did buy some lobby cards from you once, on
my way to Cinevent in Columbus, and those were from titles from
the 70's or older, if I remember correctly. I was quite happy
with the purchase, all lobby cards were legit, and I
enjoyed meeting you, and the experience of spending a few hours
together.
Best regards, Zeev
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Martin <mailto:[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 12:02 AM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] MINTY WHITE INSERTS- interogatories for David
David I have to respectfully disagree with the theory your
setting forth... its patently not true in my opinion.
Where you in business in 1977 - 1989 period- selling movie
Posters? Did you have a business relationship with any
suppliers during the years in question?
When you purport that the posters that are rumored to have
been made Most Likely after hours
where did your information come from to support that? who
told You? what documents can support your allegations.? On
what date did each poster get printed and by whom and where?
who were the dealers that sold the posters and what specific
titles where sold.?
where were these reprints printed and if they were done after
hours on the same press and same printer on same paper then
by all means that is t like printing a 35 mm movie print off
the original negative and is a original. copy just as the
rest but just later in day
What proof do you have or facts that they're printed at same
plant and documents or statements by whom to support your
theory? what is the date they were printed.
where have you obtained Your fake posters from as are Your
posters also suspect then ?
Why would you carry fake posters ? Is your source for the
fakes also a maker of other fakes?
Do you carry other fakes if so what items in your inventory
are fakes also. On what authority do you have
the ability to differentiate a fake from a real Poster? Are
you accredited and licensed to make appraisals
or just offer your professional Opinion? please advise.
However thetas Not the case.. because if they were not
originals what your saying is that a employee would stay and
jeopardize a job , possible legal suit and more to make
posters tat were available for 3.00 at the time
and abundant.
As I have stated clear Im not saying that there are NOt
reproductions out there that have been done since the 80s ,
My point was there was a Lot of posters that came from
National screen when they closed the cleveland office that
were to be Dumped and were purchased by a dealer I personally
Know and were offered along with many many more titles then
just the few that people keep bringing up alone...
Plus to me its so absurd that you and many others that just
make claims like You do about the history of the
posters do so.. when I can say with 100 % certainty that
they existed.
I will not insult you by saying anyone that doesn't agree is
flat wrong without the facts,,, But I was there
when all these came out and there just was no reason to
create these as they didn't sell.. or I would have bought
them at 3.00
heck I have posters from 80s I bought I still have and I
even have star wars I bought at the star wars celebration in
denver
so Why would I defend the Minty whites if I 1. ) don't have
any,, 2.) never sold them anyway....
whets the purpose... Its not like I would sell them now
because of the Rumors spread by many...
But let it stand what you have said.. because you have made
it fact in your book and that to me
is very dangerous without having Ironclad data to support
your statements.
I was there at the time, received the lists and dealt with
the poster sellers at the time period..
and all Im saying was there was Inserts Unused in mint shape
as they were on sheleves at Nation screen service and they
were sold 3.00 wholesale. ... If they were made in the same
plant, on same paper from same plates whether in the morning
or night its the same poster,,
also your entire business is unauthorized if you think as
Posters are not to be sold correct so you are unauthorized
to do it also... If you want to get all legal.. Or are you
licensed to sell movie posters by some
studio?
makes no sense , your facts are weak at best...
and to place that info on your site and state those things
as facts is not prudent
wisdom to the customers. in my humble opinion.
I offer this for consideration and to help others
understand the history of Posters.
best, Tom
David Lieberman wrote:
how many times do we have to discuss this same topic? ;)
The "minty white" inserts were printed in the mid to late
1980's. They are "unauthorized" restrikes. They were most
likely done "after hours" at the same place the originals
were printed years before (at one of the nss printing
facilities).....that is why the quality is just as good as
the originals.........that is why they fooled so many
people......and that is why they still fool people today.
Some are virtually identical with the same art cropping
etc., and some have the artwork slightly cropped.
The list of titles is on our website.....some of these fake
inserts include: a clockwork orange -X rated, jaws, star
wars, esb, rotj, scarface, blade runner, manhattan.
There were also several unauthorized restrike one sheets
printed around the same time. They probably came from the
same source as the minty white inserts (at least that's my
humble opinion!). The manhattan style b 1sh, fast times 1sh,
rocky horror 1sh, star wars a,b,c one sheets.....as well
as several others.
We have done several comparisons side by side and have close
ups of some of them (not all) on our site. They aren't all
in one place though on the website. Some of them (like
scarface and manhattan) we haven't done only because we
haven't had a fake one and a real one in stock at the same
time so we could compare them side by side.
Anybody who thinks the minty white inserts are "real".....is
flat out wrong.
David Lieberman
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