[MOPO] Aw: Re: [MOPO] I just said good-bye to my ebay store

Helmut Hamm Sun, 28 Jun 2020 03:50:34 -0700

Tommy,

back in the 1990s, when ebay first started out, that was exactly the idea: To give small hobby or part-time sellers a platform to buy and sell, basically an online flea market. In the beginning, it was nothing short of amazing. Looking at ebay today, it feels like that was ages ago.

These days, if they could only get away with it, I have no doubt ebay would love to get rid of private sellers like you. Small time sellers are just too much hassle and not enough money. Keep in mind, their big role model is Amazon.

Amazon has long established Amazon Pay, so it was only a matter of time until the empty suits at ebay would copy that idea and they would make another attempt with a self-owned payment service. And it will only be a matter of time until they ban Paypal and make their own payment service mandatory.

It has happended before, when they used to ban sellers that offered Paypal in their listings. When it was clear that they could not win that battle, they eventually purchased Paypal.

In the last few years, ebay has generated less than 10% of my business, and a lot less of my annual profit. So far, it still seemed worth it, especially as there was very little work involved. But now they are planning yet ANOTHER round of new REGULATIONS and REQUIREMENTS and what not. Enough is enough, and that was the breaking point for me.

Helmut

Gesendet: Sonntag, 28. Juni 2020 um 12:03 Uhr
Von: "Tommy Barr" <tommymb...@gmail.com>
An: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Betreff: Re: [MOPO] I just said good-bye to my ebay store

I decided to do a little dealing in movie posters after I retired, admittedly more as a hobby than a business and just to keep me occupied. I set up my own website and ran it for a couple of years, eschewing eBay, and was lucky if I sold double figures in a year. I was eventually persuaded (by my adult sons) to sign up for an eBay store, and sales quadrupled almost immediately. I find there is a lot I don't like about eBay, but it does seem to generate business. I can understand why 'seasoned dealers' like Rich don't like it, but then again many traditional retailers have found internet competition not to their liking. Also, I have sent posters from U.K. across the world, including U.S.A., and found it relatively trouble free and not too expensive, but then maybe that's just the Royal Mail.

Tommy

On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 at 18:39, Michael Greenwood <newswan...@hotmail.com> wrote:

I want to make clear that I don't blame sellers for using ebay as it obviously has its advantages as far as reaching customers and doubly so for the little guy out there. I'm just listing grievances I have against ebay greed practices, as normal, and the global shipping is certainly one of the worst money grabs they've implemented. My recent experiences (and I understand they're exacerbated by the pandemic) are certainly making me lean towards siding with Tommy here. Shipping from the US is nearly finished for me (especially in the weightier record collecting field) in the altogether but definitely paying for it through ebay's global shipping is a mistake I am soon going to stop making! I'm happy to see a few oldtimers still slinging paper there and shipping as normal. And I don't blame seller like Kirby from using an easier system either. But sellers should always lie about value...it just makes it more fun for everybody!

Take care,

M

From: MoPo List <mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> on behalf of Tom Martin <dreamfact...@hollywooddreamfactory.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 12:56 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU <MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>
Subject: Re: [MOPO] I just said good-bye to my ebay store

funny mypo manger Marcia just retired after 40years..she was so
accurate..she was evena competitive body builderand didthearnold Classic
in columbus..I have friends at thepostoffice as i used them UPs, fedex
and bax aka burlington air frieghtand thendbSchenker in Germany
formany years
ive seen many changeds///we wera sortingfacility inToledo our1st class
gos now to Detroitand back so i can mail priority in 2-3 day delivery
tocalif buta letterlocally takes upto 6 days....!!

mylocal congresswomen is tryingto get thelocal sorting toopen back
up..andi agree itsa good idea....so we willsee
also Bax was at ourairport so we werea hub.. but they left....
themain cost change was whenthey stopped mail by ship orwhat was surface
as books and materials wentto priority only... i likethati get free
boxes and supplies so the set fee prices are a good dealand paddded
ewnvelopes..i cangeta folded one sheet ina 11x15 box niceandfloat it
inside..
the triangle Tubes are risky

so i put rolle ina yazoo mills durable tubeinside the triangle tube
boxand then mail..

the postal workers i know are great people and honest..butlike everyone
else they have all become disillusioned by the politics and economy
and the virus

we just keep doingwhat we did inthestart
fair deals, good packing and goodmaterials

Hollywood dream factory®
since 1977
kind regards, Tom
ps never used the global shipping of ebay

On 2020-06-27 11:28, Tommy Barr wrote:
> Sorry, Kirby, but I and a lot of others here in the UK think eBay's
> Global Shipping Program is a total rip-off. I refuse to buy from any
> seller who insists I use it.
>
> Tommy
>
> On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 at 16:16, Kirby McDaniel <ki...@movieart.com>
> wrote:
>
>> We use the Ebay Global Shipping program, and it is very easy for
>> sellers. Plus my inventory travels insured, so everyone's money is
>> protected. Plus I don't have to fill out a lot of customs forms.
>> Ebay Global Shipping is run by Pitney Bowes for Ebay, and yes, it is
>> more expensive. Yes, it takes some time. When shipping
>> internationally becomes easier, we will consider using the Post
>> Office here. Meanwhile, in the U.S. the Trump administration wants
>> to abolish the Post Office.
>> This is the TRUTH.
>>
>> Secondly, almost all governments add duties to purchases of old
>> movie posters. Many buyers want to buy a poster for $150, and have
>> ME tell the authorities that they bought it for $20. These buyers
>> may not know this, or appreciate it, but this puts both the seller
>> and the buyer at risk for significant fines.
>>
>> It's dishonest, and I won't do it.
>>
>> International buyers can buy from our own website, but insurance is
>> limited. Buyers may SAY that it OK for posters to travel entirely
>> at their own risk, but when
>> something actually gets lost, it's a different story.
>>
>> Kirby McDaniel
>> MovieArt.com [3]
>>
>>> On Jun 27, 2020, at 9:22 AM, Michael Greenwood
>>> <newswan...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Good for you!
>>>
>>> I've had a couple recent transactions on ebay that have been
>>> awful. Mainly it's due to the global shipping program, a great
>>> excuse for ebay to take a little more out of buyer's and, I
>>> assume, seller's pockets. It's terrible and it takes forever and
>>> the tracking is completely useless. The odd seller who still does
>>> things the old way is wonderful to run across in these days when
>>> shipping is almost a deal breaker, especially from the US to me in
>>> Canada. If shipping continues to get even more ridiculous, I guess
>>> it will be a strictly US thing...maybe that's their goal?
>>>
>>> Anyway, always happy to see someone leave that site if they can.
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>> M
>>>
>>> -------------------------
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>>> FROM: MoPo List <mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> on behalf of Helmut
>>> Hamm <texasmu...@web.de>
>>> SENT: Saturday, June 27, 2020 4:29 AM
>>> TO: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU <MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>
>>> SUBJECT: [MOPO] I just said good-bye to my ebay store
>>>
>>> ebay has once again been pestering me lately, telling me I need to
>>> ‚adjust‘ my store listings to once again ‚comply‘ with
>>> their ‚new rules‘.
>>>
>>> Today, I received another message from them, informing me some
>>> adjustments will soon become ‚mandatoy‘ and others will be
>>> ‚optional‘.
>>>
>>> Their decision to introduce mandatory ‚automatic renewal‘ some
>>> time ago already pushed me to the edge and I thought about
>>> canceling my store subscription back then.
>>>
>>> Now they are at it AGAIN. Whatever their new rules might be, I
>>> don‘t even want to know. My yearly subscription would‘ve ended
>>> in three days anyway, and after that I would‘ve been stuck with
>>> them for another year.
>>>
>>> Not anymore. I just canceled my subscription, so on July 1, my
>>> ebay store will be history.
>>>
>>> I was still making a little bit of money, but not nearly enough to
>>> take up with yet ANOTHER set of new rules and regulations. On top
>>> of their ridiculous fees, that is.
>>>
>>> Also, in recent months, my quota of non-paying buyers has
>>> increased dramatically. That sellers are not allowed to leave
>>> appropriate feedback for deadbeat bidders is yet another thing
>>> that has bothered my since the day they introduced that policy.
>>>
>>> I‘m buying and selling on ebay since 1999, so I have watched
>>> pretty much all of their so-called ‚improvements‘ over more
>>> than two decades by now. So far, I could still convince myself to
>>> stick with them, but not anymore. Enough is enough.
>>>
>>> Helmut
>>>
>>> www.filmposter.net [1]
>>>
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