one last note......the proofs that were made into book covers were from REVENGE OF THE JEDI.
now everybody scream! On Sun, Nov 26, 2023 at 5:27 AM David Lieberman <cinemasterpie...@gmail.com> wrote: > I forgot ANIMAL HOUSE, the advance and regular one sheets. Another title > with a lot of proofs. > > On Sun, Nov 26, 2023 at 5:16 AM David Lieberman < > cinemasterpie...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> "why do we see so many of the STAR WARS tests in comparison to any other >> title?" >> >> Great question Helmut. I wondered about this for a long time. After >> acquiring several of these proofs from at least four or five different >> former print shop employees over the past 20 years, I finally had a lengthy >> discussion with one of them and his answer was this. First of all, it isn't >> just Star Wars, there are a few other titles from that era 1977-1980 where >> a lot of proofs exist. There are a lot of JAWS 2, CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE >> THIRD KIND, and a few other nothing titles that no one really cares about. >> A lot of these haven't survived or haven't been noticed on ebay or other >> auction sites over the past 40+ years because no one really wants them and >> they don't sell for much. Secondly......these former employees were >> basically just kids at the time mostly in their early twenties. They took >> stuff home all the time that was meant for the dumpster because they were >> allowed to. They took stuff that they thought was "cool". Star Wars was >> cool and became collectible almost immediately. One of our clients who used >> to work at GORE GRAPHICS told me about his kids in the 1980's who took some >> of his proofs and made book covers for their school books to show off to >> their classmates. >> >> On Sun, Nov 26, 2023 at 4:47 AM Helmut Hamm <texasmu...@web.de> wrote: >> >>> Whatever you want to call them, test printings or proofs: When it comes >>> to STAR WARS, there way too many of these around for my taste. Bruce alone >>> has auctioned more than thirty copies of the Style C Onesheet 'test print'. >>> Frankly, I can't see any difference to the regular onesheets. >>> Actually, they just look like untrimmed onesheets to me. >>> >>> As to all of these being 'test prints' that were 'sent out to the client >>> for confirmation': For all I know, this is NOT common practice for print >>> shops anywhere in the world, and it never was. If that was the case, why do >>> we see so many of the STAR WARS tests in comparison to any other title? >>> This does not make any sense to me. >>> >>> Here's an actual test print for the BLADE RUNNER onesheet: >>> >>> >>> https://www.filmposter.net/en/blade-runner-original-release-us-test-proof-movie-poster.html >>> >>> As all print shops do, the printer saved a small number of these posters >>> (for all I know, it was more than five, but less than ten) for their >>> archive. These prints came to the market after the company folded and >>> somebody cleared out their inventory. >>> >>> As you can see, the image is very different from the final onesheet. >>> Apparently, somebody took a serious effort to get things right, but in the >>> pre-digital days, creating a test like this was seriously expensive and >>> therefore a rare exception, not common practice. >>> >>> Helmut >>> >>> >>> *Gesendet:* Samstag, 25. November 2023 um 14:05 Uhr >>> *Von:* "Bruce Hershenson" <brucehershen...@gmail.com> >>> *An:* MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU >>> *Betreff:* Re: [MOPO] BLACK FRIDAY SALE 2023 💥 CineMasterpieces >>> VINTAGE MOVIE POSTERS �� >>> I agree he has a MASSIVE amount of super helpful information and bravo >>> to Dave. especially where he helps newbies not get ripped off by eBay >>> sellers openly selling fakes.. >>> >>> But does he still call "printer's test" posters "proofs"? I hope not, >>> because 99% of the ones circulating in the hobby are test posters that were >>> printed to get people's reactions before the final print run. >>> >>> The few true PROOF posters are sent back to the printer with markings as >>> to what needs to be changed OR have an approval stamped area where it is >>> OK'ed for printing. >>> >>> On Sat, Nov 25, 2023 at 6:40 AM David Kusumoto < >>> davidmkusum...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Don't know how many others are on Dave Lieberman's newsletter but I >>>> hadn't visited his site in a long time and I went straight to his Star Wars >>>> section - and I was floored by the wealth of information about almost every >>>> known poster iteration of Star Wars - from concept to its celebrated >>>> inaugural year of 1977 - (theatrical and commercial) - in roughly >>>> chronological order. The section includes detailed images and descriptions >>>> of known fakes, including personal testimonials of oddball things he >>>> concedes he was initially fooled about like a lot of us. >>>> >>>> He also provides a detailed study of printer's proofs - which - while >>>> I've never had the desire to collect nor own, is still interesting insofar >>>> there are collectors who DO love and pay $$$ for them. He explains how >>>> they came to be, their ubiquitous presence and the differences between PMS >>>> (pantone) vs. CMYK proofs, which came first, etc. - and why it matters to >>>> some collectors and not to others. Great stuff for SW completists. >>>> >>>> Encourage anyone interested to venture over there and take a gander, >>>> not just at the massive Star Wars section - but also other sections, >>>> including the one where he re-lives the entire minty white insert and lobby >>>> card counterfeit saga - from his own point of view as a gallery owner of >>>> many years in AZ. He further provides in one section - a long list of >>>> titles and accompanying formats he implicates as having been faked - in >>>> line with other dealers who've said the same. He also sources the >>>> geographic locations of some suspect dealers who - to this day - are still >>>> peddling these things as originals. >>>> >>>> Between this, eMoviePoster, Learn About Movie Posters, Walter Reuben >>>> and others - this is a storehouse of information grouped by category / >>>> genre that's available right now - for free. >>>> >>>> Best, David near San Diego, still the biggest fan of the never-faked >>>> (to date) - and grossly underrated Star Wars half-sheet from 1977 with >>>> alternate Jung art. 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