[Platt]
Maybe you two professors, instead of commiserating with one another 
about that awful, file, despicable, inane, stupid, nauseating, 
polarizing Platt,  could address the issue raised by Pirsig in Lila, namely:

{snip pet Pirsig quote}

[Arlo]
First, its rather meaningless to talk about "The Academy" as a 
monolithic, uniformly-active entity. At best, its an amalgamation of 
not only many disciplines, but many theoretical trends. I assume your 
question points to sociology and social theory. This is not my forte, 
but I am familiar with several trends in interdisciplinary studies, 
such as the cultural psychology of Lev Vygotsky and the activity 
theory of Leont'ev that seek a better understanding of community 
formation and individual involvement.

Personally I find Pirsig's sentiment here somewhat naive and 
hopelessly simplistic. "Crime" is not a function of "intellect's 
failure to support social patterns", as crime has been a factor in 
life dating as far back as Hammurabi. I, personally, do not know of 
any sociological tradition that demands forgoing law in favor of 
"talking to them". Some may foreground rehabilitation, others may 
seek to kill the plant by getting to the roots, others have vigilante 
fantasies about solving the problem by simply beating the thugs with 
police batons. Likely a solution has to be multifaceted, one that 
brings greater force down on criminals, as well as one that addresses 
root-causes, and one that addresses the balance between punishment 
and rehabilitation (incarceration costs the taxpayers millions of dollars).

But consider this. America, the land you hold as "more free" than the 
"socialized" regions of Canada and Europe, has a much higher rate of 
crime, violence and the "gang" activity of those "inner city blacks" 
you seem to loathe so deeply. What is it that these other countries 
are doing, that we are not, that is keeping this level of "biological 
violence" in check? Are these "socialized" regions guided by a better 
intellectual pattern than America? Does that account for their 
ability to keep crime and violence at much lower levels than in the 
US? Do they "raise their children with more discipline" in Canada? Do 
the schools use "humiliation" (a tactic you recently called to be 
used in schools here) in these areas, and is that responsible?


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