>  [SA previously]
>      It is what I call:  dq is sq, and sq is dq. 
> Here's a quote from the SODV paper as follows:
>           "In this diagram you will notice that Dynamic Quality is not

> shown in any block. It is in the background. This seems the best way 
> to represent it. It is not only outside the blocks, Page 14 it 
> pervades them but it goes on where the blocks leave off."
>      - SODV; Pirsig
>      This is how intellectual values last as long as it is valued.
> Social values as long as they are valued. 
> Organic... valued.
> Inorganic... valued. 
> Change is the motto here.  This part of the article goes on to say as
> follows:
>       "The blocks are organized in the order of evolution, with each 
> higher block more recent and more Dynamic than the lower ones."
>      - SODV; Pirsig

 
> [Ron]
> You do realize what is happening here, we can not
communicate the > concept of pre-conceptual using conceptual terms. This
why we're 
> having a difficult time discussing it. We are
intellectualizing pre-
> intellect.  crazy.
> Thanks SA
> woods
[SA]
     Yes, "We are intellectualizing pre-intellect", and this kind of
intellectualizing is not SOM.

afternoon wind,
SA  
[Ron]
How can you know this? we are dealing with concepts not experience
itself.

 
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