Hi David, Yes it does, I must point MoQ'ers at that video of Alan Rayner tearing and folding the sheet of paper to illustrate the distinction between distinct and separate - and the need for "sellotape" (scotch-tape ?) to make progress. Great metaphor. I'll dig it out.
Ian On 9/14/07, David M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Ian G > > Funny how this sounds like inclusionality. > > DM > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Heather Perella" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 4:42 PM > Subject: Re: [MD] subject / object logic > > > >> [SA previously] > >> If I may... > >> You can have a concept about anything and it is > >> not separate based on what is called 'a part of > >> you', 'one with you', 'oneness', 'one-with-nature', > > or > >> ecosystem experience, namely the woods, etc... It > >> is these non-ego experiences that DM is referring > > to. > >> The distinct experiences are static, but these are > >> dynamic anyways. Distinct doesn't refer to > >> separate. > >> How does you pointing out "...unconceptualized > >> experience is sensual distinction." change or speak > >> differently than what I've just said? > > > >> [Ron] > >> Hello SA, > >> when you say > >> "The distinct experiences are static, but these are > >> dynamic anyways " > >> what do you mean? > >> thanks > > > > > > It is what I call: dq is sq, and sq is dq. > > Here's a quote from the SODV paper as follows: > > > > "In this diagram you will notice that > > Dynamic Quality is not shown in any block. It is in > > the background. This seems the best way to represent > > it. It is not only outside the blocks, > > > > Page 14 > > > > it pervades them but it goes on where the blocks leave > > off." > > > > - SODV; Pirsig > > > > This is how intellectual values last as long as > > it is valued. Social values as long as they are > > valued. Organic... valued. Inorganic... valued. > > Change is the motto here. This part of the article > > goes on to say as follows: > > > > "The blocks are organized in the order of > > evolution, with each higher block more recent and more > > Dynamic than the lower ones." > > > > - SODV; Pirsig > > > > > > Does this help? > > > > thanks. > > > > > > woods, > > SA > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > > Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest > > shows on Yahoo! TV. > > http://tv.yahoo.com/ > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > Archives: > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
