Hi Ian G

Funny how this sounds like inclusionality.

DM

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From: "Heather Perella" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 4:42 PM
Subject: Re: [MD] subject / object logic


>> [SA previously]
>>     If I may...
>>     You can have a concept about anything and it is
>> not separate based on what is called 'a part of
>> you', 'one with you', 'oneness', 'one-with-nature',
> or
>> ecosystem experience, namely the woods, etc...  It
>> is these non-ego experiences that DM is referring
> to.
>> The distinct experiences are static, but these are
>> dynamic anyways.  Distinct doesn't refer to
>> separate.
>> How does you pointing out "...unconceptualized
>> experience is sensual distinction." change or speak
>> differently than what I've just said?
>
>> [Ron]
>> Hello SA,
>> when you say
>> "The distinct experiences are static, but these are
>> dynamic anyways "
>> what do you mean?
>> thanks
>
>
>     It is what I call:  dq is sq, and sq is dq.
> Here's a quote from the SODV paper as follows:
>
>          "In this diagram you will notice that
> Dynamic Quality is not shown in any block. It is in
> the background. This seems the best way to represent
> it. It is not only outside the blocks,
>
> Page 14
>
> it pervades them but it goes on where the blocks leave
> off."
>
>     - SODV; Pirsig
>
>     This is how intellectual values last as long as
> it is valued.  Social values as long as they are
> valued.  Organic... valued.  Inorganic... valued.
> Change is the motto here.  This part of the article
> goes on to say as follows:
>
>      "The blocks are organized in the order of
> evolution, with each higher block more recent and more
> Dynamic than the lower ones."
>
>     - SODV; Pirsig
>
>
> Does this help?
>
> thanks.
>
>
> woods,
> SA
>
>
> 
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