[Marsha] At first all things of the world are real, then all things of the world are illusion, then once again all things of the world are real.
[Arlo] Hi, Marsha. If I understand correctly, this seems to resonate with what Ant posted a few days ago. "An infant tends not to recognise ego boundaries but that is from the (selfish) point of view that it _is_ the universe. A mystic, also tends not to recognise ego boundaries but that is from the (selfless) point of view that the (static) self dissolves in a fundamentally Dynamic universe. Though on the surface, both points of view seem similar, there is the 'full circle' of spiritual growth (of the individual) between them." (Ant McWatt) I have heard a similar statement (although maybe sounding inverted) in that the human cycle begins with seeing the world through the wonderment of the eyes of a child. As we mature, we lose lose this wonderment in seeking underlying causality and mechanics governing the world. But a third step, the "Zen" step, is to reach an integration where wonderment is recaptured. It is this cycle, if memory serves, that is describe by Benjamin Hoff in the Tao of Pooh/Te of Piglet books. Here we move from illusion to real back to illusion. Or maybe from illusion-based-in-ignorance to real-based-in-knowledge to illusion-based-in-philosophy. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
