[SA] It is real/illusion/real. - Marsha It is illusion/real/illusion. - Arlo It's an egg eating a snake. - SA It's all real. - Platt
[Arlo] Hi, SA. Just happen to have the ability to do some quick responding today (as I wait for yet another server reboot). I'd add this to what I wrote to Marsha. Child: I am real, you are an illusion. [Soliptic thinking] Adult: We are both real. [S/O thinking] Zen Adult: We are both illusions. [Buddhist thinking] MOQ Adult: Okay, so we are philosophically both illusions, but how can we make use of this illusion to build rotisseries, maintain our motorcycles and sail our boats in the best way possible. I realize I am risking an enormous amount of over-simplification, but nonetheless this is how it seems to me. In short, the "self" is a "pragmatic value" not an "existential object". And as such it is both "real" pragmatically and "illusory" philosophically. (Many thanks to Ron for drawing my attention to this distinction!) The Zen Master may say, "I am a figment of my own imagination." And full-circle we come back to the inherent recursive paradox. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
