Arlo, Marsha, SA and Platt, Arlo's additional explanation highlights the cyclical nature involved in this illusion question, and therefore that the order they are expressd is simply a matter of perspective where you first intersect the cycle with your analysis - it's the same circle though.
My words - reality is cyclical which is why from some perspectives much of it can appear illusory - but it "really is" cyclically interdependent. What I don't see SA is how you reduce this to the "absolutist" description Platt liked - could you find other words to clarify ? Ian On 9/20/07, Arlo Bensinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [Arlo had said previously] > Child: I am real, you are an illusion. [Soliptic thinking] > > Adult: We are both real. [S/O thinking] > > Zen Adult: We are both illusions. [Buddhist thinking] > > MOQ Adult: Okay, so we are philosophically both illusions, but how > can we make use of this illusion to build rotisseries, maintain our > motorcycles and sail our boats in the best way possible. > > [Arlo adds] > Gah! I forgot to mention the reason for this addition. > > I think the real-illusion-real cycle Marsha mentions is the > "adult-zen adult-moq adult" cycle above. > > The illusion-real-illusion cycle I mention is the "child-adult-zen adult". > > So you see these are not contradictory, simply different in terms of > where you start with that analytic knife. > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
