[Ian]
> Arlo's additional explanation highlights the
> cyclical nature involved
> in this illusion question, and therefore that the
> order they are
> expressd is simply a matter of perspective where you
> first intersect
> the cycle with your analysis - it's the same circle
> though.
> My words - reality is cyclical which is why from
> some perspectives
> much of it can appear illusory - but it "really is"
> cyclically
> interdependent.
> What I don't see SA is how you reduce this to the
> "absolutist"
> description Platt liked - could you find other words
> to clarify ?
I see your asking me to clarify, Ian. Have the
posts that I've - posted - so far, such as Arlo's
'analytic knife starting point' was what I referred to
as "context". Also, my response to Platt that 0 is
not the same as 0.
thanks.
SA
> On 9/20/07, Arlo Bensinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > [Arlo had said previously]
> > Child: I am real, you are an illusion. [Soliptic
> thinking]
> >
> > Adult: We are both real. [S/O thinking]
> >
> > Zen Adult: We are both illusions. [Buddhist
> thinking]
> >
> > MOQ Adult: Okay, so we are philosophically both
> illusions, but how
> > can we make use of this illusion to build
> rotisseries, maintain our
> > motorcycles and sail our boats in the best way
> possible.
> >
> > [Arlo adds]
> > Gah! I forgot to mention the reason for this
> addition.
> >
> > I think the real-illusion-real cycle Marsha
> mentions is the
> > "adult-zen adult-moq adult" cycle above.
> >
> > The illusion-real-illusion cycle I mention is the
> "child-adult-zen adult".
> >
> > So you see these are not contradictory, simply
> different in terms of
> > where you start with that analytic knife.
> >
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