It is real/illusion/real. - Marsha
It is illusion/real/illusion. - Arlo
It's an egg eating a snake. - SA
It's all real. - Platt
Aside from my comedic input, how these line up depends
on what? Surely perspective, but how these
conclusions? I think what might be happening,
especially in Platt's case, is real must be absolutely
extremely real, and illusion is absolutely extremely
illusion. Marsha and Arlo seem to have approached
real and illusion more loosely, thus, maybe
recognizing a non-absolutism and thus differently,
yet, still familiar. As always it seems, context
drove this line-up. Marsha was talking about
mountains are mountains by Master Ch'ing Yuan, and
Arlo was talking about "Benjamin Hoff in the Tao of
Pooh/Te of Piglet books". Platt your absolutism is
their absolutism in the end, don't you think?
SA
> Yup. Ain't life a hoot!!!
>
> Marsha
>
>
> At 01:07 PM 9/20/2007, you wrote:
> >[Marsha]
> >At first all things of the world are real, then all
> things of the
> >world are illusion, then once again all things of
> the world are real.
> >
> >[Arlo]
> >Hi, Marsha. If I understand correctly, this seems
> to resonate with
> >what Ant posted a few days ago.
> >
> >"An infant tends not to recognise ego boundaries
> but that is from the
> >(selfish) point of view that it _is_ the universe.
> A mystic, also
> >tends not to recognise ego boundaries but that is
> from the (selfless)
> >point of view that the (static) self dissolves in a
> fundamentally
> >Dynamic universe. Though on the surface, both
> points of view seem
> >similar, there is the 'full circle' of spiritual
> growth (of the
> >individual) between them." (Ant McWatt)
> >
> >I have heard a similar statement (although maybe
> sounding inverted)
> >in that the human cycle begins with seeing the
> world through the
> >wonderment of the eyes of a child. As we mature, we
> lose lose this
> >wonderment in seeking underlying causality and
> mechanics governing
> >the world. But a third step, the "Zen" step, is to
> reach an
> >integration where wonderment is recaptured. It is
> this cycle, if
> >memory serves, that is describe by Benjamin Hoff in
> the Tao of
> >Pooh/Te of Piglet books. Here we move from illusion
> to real back to
> >illusion. Or maybe from illusion-based-in-ignorance
> to
> >real-based-in-knowledge to
> illusion-based-in-philosophy.
> >
> >
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