Hi Peter, Marsha 

If I might step in here...


I think he means - freedom from suffering -
to attain something that would be
called 'happiness'...removing the 'dis' from
'disease' .

ultimately I think the Buddhist goal is to attain liberation
from the cycle of reincarnation (through right thought and
action that will help to change your karma)
...but I think that
even if one doesn't believe in the notion of 
reincarnation...one can (or at least I can) benefit
from and understand the concept of the freedom from
the suffering we create in our own mind by really looking
'thoughtfully' into our own mental chatter, desires and
distorted states of mind - that cause our own suffering.


Margaret



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> Peter Corteen
> Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 8:19 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [MD] The Dalai Lama's advice
> 
> 
> Hi Marsha,
> 
> What does the Dalai mean when he says freedom?
> Is he referring to the freedom to choose one's parents in the 
> next life? or the greater freedom to avoid reincarnation 
> altogether and step out of the game and into the void?
> 
> If he means the extra but still limited freedom afforded by 
> recognition of one's conditioning then I can go along with 
> his words in the paragraph you clipped. Otherwise I would 
> have to compartmentalise his verbiage along with all the 
> other creationist claptrap.
> 
> Regards
> 
> -Peter
> 
> 
> On 15/10/2007, MarshaV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >   To attain freedom, we must all cultivate insight into 
> ourselves and 
> > rid ourselves of our distorted states of mind. We must also 
> beware the 
> > danger of "extreme self-centeredness," and cherish others' 
> welfare as 
> > much as our own, although our compassion for others must also be 
> > tempered by our knowledge of "not being."
> >
> >
> > 
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