[Peter]
> Pirsig suffered a mental breakdown figuring this
> stuff out; most bums out
> there could not consider Pirsig's ideas for more
> than a moment.


     [SA currently]
     The way I see this, S/O distinctions involves
ever-higher learning ivory tower approaches.  The bums
know it already.  Yes, they may not speak moqish, and
arrive at the same worded conclusions that Pirsig did,
but when one drops-out, one is going into an
experience of dynamic quality where mountains are no
longer mountains; rivers are no longer rivers.  That's
what I mean by this.



     [Bo]
> You have been flexible over the boundaries of the
> Social level. Let's all
> keep on pressing to clarify what is the intellectual
> level - it's evolving.


     Exactly!  "it's evolving" thus involves change,
not a one or other choice, or an s or o only choice. 
It is an intellect that involves morals and values.


SA


      
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