Oh SA,
you said:
The way I see this, S/O distinctions involves
ever-higher learning ivory tower approaches. The bums
know it already. Yes, they may not speak moqish, and
arrive at the same worded conclusions that Pirsig did,
but when one drops-out, one is going into an
experience of dynamic quality where mountains are no
longer mountains; rivers are no longer rivers. That's
what I mean by this.
Pete replies:
You must be talking about dharma bums. Drop outs, beatniks, world weary lazy
bastards; I'm half way there myself but haven't got the stomach for the full
journey. I like the idea of the wild life, talking to bears and things,
going up on the mountain for the rest of my life, for the rest of my wild
life, along with my wife. But from a different point of view it's escapist
and cowardly. I'm not including you SA; I know you like the bears and the
trees but you're still involved in the modern world too. I see all varieties
of drop-outs, drug addicts, musos and general bums in Camden Town; hell, I
very nearly was one, might one day still be one. Your archetypal bum,
though, don't know his arse from his elbow. Sure he knows the difference
between subjects and objects, like he knows when he's been kicked in the
head; try telling him it's really just a pattern of value and he'll try and
kick you back. SA If you think the bums know it already then what are you
waiting for? You want enlightenment? then forget your borrowed morals,
forget your wife and kid, get up on the mountain and share your spirit with
the cosmos man. We'll all be the better for it!
Those bums don't know shit man.
-Peter
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