[Peter]
> SA, you were the one who said that the 'bum knows it
> already' and I was
> disagreeing with you.
> What did you mean when you said the bum knows it
> already?

     [SA currently]
     Quality.  That's all.  


     [Peter]
> That bums have an
> intuitive knowledge of reality but don't have the
> education to be able to
> put it into words?


     [SA currently]
     I didn't say "education".  I said they might not
be able to put quality into the exact words as Pirsig
and go around saying quality, static patterns of
value, etc..., but they do know quality - who doesn't?


     [Peter]
> Yes, I was heavy handed and over the top in what I
> said but I still think
> that bums are less able to deal with the world than
> say people in work and
> that they don't 'know' it already.


     I don't know why your going off-track here, but
you don't think bums know quality?  Do you think they
value?  Might they dare know morals?


woods,
SA


      
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