[Ron]
> I was stressing that evidence is relative. Evidence
> is up to interpretation
> And if the only qualifier between faith and reason
> is the evidence provided
> Then who is to say who is right and who is wrong?
SA: I'm looking more at what does faith do. What
does reason do? Evidence can be interpreted in many
ways, we can call a rock by many names. We can give a
drawing of a pink elephant many interpretations, but
how does interpretation fit in with faith and reason?
With faith, it seems for example, somebodies asking
somebody else to believe what their saying. They
don't provide anything, not even a good outcome, to
any event as a basis for why anybody should believe
them. It is a matter of faith. You just believe them
and go along with what their saying. At least a pink
elephant is a drawing I can look at and decide for
myself. What about dreams, what about the ghosts of
reason, such as laws of gravity, etc...? Well, these
can be linked with something. If somebody comes up to
me and says they had a dream about a tree. I would
think, ok, and... It isn't a matter of me believing
if they did have a dream about a tree or not, what
does it matter to me? Now if they say they had a
dream about a tree falling on me and killing me, well,
I may wonder about, I might laugh, I might do any
number of things. I guess I'll see what happens when
and if anything like that happens.
[Ron]
> Empirical scientific data Can be interpreted in many
different ways.
> What makes one interpretation More viable than
another?
> Remember the tv program Northern exposure? When
> Leonard the shaman would Visit Dr. Fleishman?
Fleishman would
> ridicule leonards methods as mystic
> Faith based mumbo-jumbo but when Leonard cured
> patients that Fleishman
> could not, Joel would be astounded and amazed citing
> that there was some
> scientific explanation that there was no rational,
> reasonable way
> Leonard's methods worked. Yet there was the
> evidence, but Joel
> interpreted it differently chalking it all up to the
> placebo effect.
> Sorta like blind faith. Trust in a belief no matter
> what experience says
> to the contrary.
> I was just warning that blind faith falls on both
> sides of the fence.
SA: If Leonard's methods are working, then something
pertinent is happening. Maybe I'll find out what it
is that works about Leonard's methods, maybe I won't.
Does it matter? I guess if I'm interesting in finding
out how they work, I could ask Leonard, then see if I
could do the same.
woods,
SA
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