Magnus: A "thought" can represent social value, it can determine a man's action and thereby affect his social value. But it *is* NOT social value in itself, not metaphysically. This is a very crucial distinction that most people here seem to have missed.
Ron: Hello Magnus, We hardly have any basis for comparison, I can't help but to get hung on The fact that human beings are found in societies. If there was an example Of a human being born and bred isolated from any society would they have Thoughts? Would they make distinctions? Would they abstract from experience Or is this learned? Is s/o distinctive thought instinctual? It is rather difficult to say since there are no known examples. Humans are master mimics by instinct, which leads to some suspicion about The nature of "thought" as we know it to be. Communication may very well have its origins with making distinction. thought may be social value itself. Distinction and Communication seem to exist because of each other. To assume s/o distinction is a 2nd level property may be reductive Fallacy depending on how you use this assumption in the formation Of a metaphysic. Something to consider. Magnus: I'm sorry if I sound harsh, but I'm getting a bit disillusioned about getting my ideas to grow (dynamically change) here. They can't grow without feedback. Ron: I am familiar with your name but not so well with your ideas, I endeavor To be open to others ideas and insights. I am a subscriber to SOL's main Thrust, but there are concepts I do challenge. I also think Hams Essentialist theories have merit. I may not be your caliber but I am Always willing to discuss and further ideas to the best of my abilities. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
