Hi Ron
Thanks for your input.
> Ron:
> We hardly have any basis for comparison, I can't help but to get hung on
> The fact that human beings are found in societies. If there was an
> example
> Of a human being born and bred isolated from any society would they have
> Thoughts? Would they make distinctions? Would they abstract from
> experience
> Or is this learned? Is s/o distinctive thought instinctual?
> It is rather difficult to say since there are no known examples.
> Humans are master mimics by instinct, which leads to some suspicion
> about
> The nature of "thought" as we know it to be.
>
> Communication may very well have its origins with making distinction.
>
> thought may be social value itself.
> Distinction and Communication seem to exist because of each other.
>
> To assume s/o distinction is a 2nd level property may be reductive
> Fallacy depending on how you use this assumption in the formation
> Of a metaphysic.
Huh? Are you suggesting *I* meant that?
In all of the above (and both your following posts), you're assuming the old
rag
"I think, therefore I am", right?
And if you do that, of course you can only discuss our reality/universe from
the
perspective of human thinking. If you force the MoQ into that same limited
glass
cage, the only thing you can really do is discuss different types of thoughts.
But the MoQ throws that old rag on the dump, it's *not* about dissecting the
human mind into different types of thoughts. It says we *can* assume that there
*is* a reality outside of our minds. The tree *does* fall in the forest even if
nobody hears it, I assure you! (and so does the MoQ).
You said that "human beings are found in societies". Yes, and? Is that supposed
to prove that intellect relies on a society?
As you say, we have nothing to compare against. But the thing is, human
societies are way too complex to use for any pragmatic analysis. At the very
least, it's the complete wrong end to start analyzing our reality. We should
start at the bottom and work our way upward, not at the top and try to find the
basic building blocks of the universe there. It's like a pointy-haired
management boss trying to reason about the inner workings of a computer using a
rough white-board drawing with a few boxes.
Magnus
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