Ian:
> ... same reminder as for Steve & Marsha .....


SA:  No need to remind here.  I'm sure with Marsha,
too.  Wasn't it Tittuvuls or however you spell his/her
name that reemerged this over two or three months ago.
 Marsha found this interesting, and I did too.  Nobody
wanted to discuss this quality=value=experience, but
Marsha keeps moving it along, and I've been trying to
move this along, too.  Glad to see you've jumped in to
move this along, as well.  I wonder if anybody else
gets it due to the lack of response to this.  It
definitely places the orientation in way that is
not-mind-centered, not-individual-centered,
not-human-centered, not-thought-centered,
not-social-centered, not-organic-centered,
not-inorganic-centered.  Have I named all the places
where people seem to state reality is based? - in the
past week or so?  I remember when reality was based on
the heavens providing the order, and man was the
center of the universe, then along came the
sun-centered universe, and now-a-days astronomy states
the center of the universe is everywhere, thus,
astronomy goes on to state - the center is nowhere.
(This is how my astronomy textbook from the university
put it.)  What a very Zen way of stating events.


SA  



> > Marsha:
> > > Patterns of value and patterns of experience are
> the
> > > same thing, right?
> >
> >
> > SA:  Exactly!  This is why I find spov's analogies
> of
> > dq.  A rock is an inorganic pattern analogizing
> dq.
> > Dq is embedded with all static patterns,
> therefore,
> > spov's emerge in accord with their own experience
> of
> > dq.
> >
> > SA
> >
> >
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