Ron,

I'm going through the log jam of some these posts that
I haven't yet read due to the high volume of posts
that came through here last week.  This is very
interesting what you said, and I'm gald you responded.
 I believe this may help move along a certain
discussion.  I don't have time at the moment to get to
this, but I will try, perhaps this afternoon, to
respond back.  This line-of-thinking, I believe,
slightly emerged in the last post you sent to me as
well.  I see where your coming from now, but I'll
respond later.

Thanks.

SA


> Ian:
> > ... same reminder as for Steve & Marsha .....
> 
> 
> SA:  No need to remind here.  I'm sure with Marsha,
> too.  Wasn't it Tittuvuls or however you spell
> his/her
> name that reemerged this over two or three months
> ago.
>  Marsha found this interesting, and I did too. 
> Nobody
> wanted to discuss this quality=value=experience, but
> Marsha keeps moving it along, and I've been trying
> to
> move this along, too.  Glad to see you've jumped in
> to
> move this along, as well.  I wonder if anybody else
> gets it due to the lack of response to this.  It
> definitely places the orientation in way that is
> not-mind-centered, not-individual-centered,
> not-human-centered, not-thought-centered,
> not-social-centered, not-organic-centered,
> not-inorganic-centered.  Have I named all the places
> where people seem to state reality is based? - in
> the
> past week or so?  I remember when reality was based
> on
> the heavens providing the order, and man was the
> center of the universe, then along came the
> sun-centered universe, and now-a-days astronomy
> states
> the center of the universe is everywhere, thus,
> astronomy goes on to state - the center is nowhere.
> (This is how my astronomy textbook from the
> university
> put it.)  What a very Zen way of stating events.
> 
> Ron:
> SA, If this is what you have gleaned from my
> statements, then
> I am truly sorry for being unable to state my
> thoughts in an
> understandable manner to you. I was not positing a
> center, it was merely
> an observation
> About how humans perceive this non center reality. I
> get it. This is
> where I've been coming from. I said in a way,
> conceptually, reality from
> a human perspective is all we really can know about
> reality by way of
> this quality=value=experience. But does this
> quality=value=experience=
> reality itself? In my opinion it is not, experience
> is not reality. It
> is a form of
> Reality, it is reality filtered, condensed and
> exaggerated , by the
> human
> Body , certainly we do not sense nor understand it
> in it's entirety As
> it flows. 
> 
> 
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