Ian:
> ... same reminder as for Steve & Marsha .....
SA: No need to remind here. I'm sure with Marsha,
too. Wasn't it Tittuvuls or however you spell his/her
name that reemerged this over two or three months ago.
Marsha found this interesting, and I did too. Nobody
wanted to discuss this quality=value=experience, but
Marsha keeps moving it along, and I've been trying to
move this along, too. Glad to see you've jumped in to
move this along, as well. I wonder if anybody else
gets it due to the lack of response to this. It
definitely places the orientation in way that is
not-mind-centered, not-individual-centered,
not-human-centered, not-thought-centered,
not-social-centered, not-organic-centered,
not-inorganic-centered. Have I named all the places
where people seem to state reality is based? - in the
past week or so? I remember when reality was based on
the heavens providing the order, and man was the
center of the universe, then along came the
sun-centered universe, and now-a-days astronomy states
the center of the universe is everywhere, thus,
astronomy goes on to state - the center is nowhere.
(This is how my astronomy textbook from the university
put it.) What a very Zen way of stating events.
Ron:
SA, If this is what you have gleaned from my statements, then
I am truly sorry for being unable to state my thoughts in an
understandable manner to you. I was not positing a center, it was merely
an observation
About how humans perceive this non center reality. I get it. This is
where I've been coming from. I said in a way, conceptually, reality from
a human perspective is all we really can know about reality by way of
this quality=value=experience. But does this quality=value=experience=
reality itself? In my opinion it is not, experience is not reality. It
is a form of
Reality, it is reality filtered, condensed and exaggerated , by the
human
Body , certainly we do not sense nor understand it in it's entirety As
it flows.
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