Steve On 20 Feb. you wrote:
> When did Pirsig ever say that intellect is the S/O distinction? In ZAMM (chapter 20) and the first Romantic/Classic MOQ where "Classic Quality" (parenthesized as "intellectual") is subdivided subjective/objective. The said divide was replaced by the DQ/SQ one, yet "Romanic" (parenthesized as "pre-intellectual") is what later became DQ, consequently "Classic" is what became SQ. Here intellect was the sole static "component", yet, if this "intellect" had been transferred into the final MOQ everything would have been fine. I could also go back to the Pre-intellectual/intellectual (The cutting edge of time) example but it will perhaps make as little dent in your "I don't think" shield. Steve: > I don't think there is such a thing as biology's intelligence. To > talk about intellect in animals is not what people usually mean by > intellectual and is certainly not how Pirsig uses the term in the > MOQ. You really are difficult. Aren't there intelligent - smart - animals? But then you make it sound as if I had spoken about "INTELLECTUAL animals". Steve: > You want to define each level as having one particular value while > I think of the levels as types of patterns of value and I think this > is how Pirsig defined the levels. This is explains why we see the > SOL differently. To me (and I think for Pirsig), Quality is the same > on all levels, there are just diferent types of patterns and one > Value. I think Christoffer answered this splendidly. > By the way, in the Bo version of the MOQ, the biological level's > value is life and the intellectual level's value is the S/O > distinction. What are the inorganic and social level's values? There is only one MOQ. The inorganic level's value is that of Order in contrast to Chaos, while the social level's value is that of individuals joining forces - the "Cosa Nostra" element. IMO Bo Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
