[Platt]
Apparently from the vantage point of the inorganic and biological 
levels their patterns can do no wrong. Is that true for the higher 
levels as well?

[Arlo]
Can you think of any activity that is 'immoral" or "wrong" that is so 
not because of a level conflict? Are you suggesting there can be an 
"immoral biological pattern of values"?

[Platt]
Doesn't Pirsig suggest there's also a scale of morality within a level?

[Arlo]
Pirsig brings "man" into the equation (man eating beef versus 
lettuce), and I think confuses the issue. Consider this, is it 
"immoral" for a bear to eat a fish when it could be eating berries? I 
think in Pirsig's example, "man" makes the issue about an 
intellectual awareness of the MOQ versus biological satiation of 
hunger. Because man "knows" that fish are more evolved than berries, 
it would be immoral for him to eat the fish when berries are 
bountiful. As such, I think this pulls the issue back into a conflict 
of levels issue, and not something that is an "immoral pattern within 
any particular level".


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