Hi Marsha 24 March you wrote:
Bo before: > >But it's a disappointment that so few understand the "Sutherland" > >variety much less the MOQ's in its entirety which is that the said > >scientific (objective over subjective) attitude is MOQ's 4th. level > >(and the mythological attitude its 3rd.) In this level context there > >were no "man" until the social level's language that coined the term > >as well as "giving name to all the animals", but no-one started to > >explore nature because there was (still is) no nature at the 3rd. > >level, "culture/nature" is one of intellect's many dichotomies) Marsha: > Since, Bo, we're all trapped into using a language that is > subject/object oriented, and since you cannot know what type of > understanding another individual holds (especially separated from the > s/o language), where do you get the ability to make such a judgement > as 'disappointment'??? Are you the next all-seeing, all-knowing > Messiah? We all care about the MOQ as much as you do. Can you not > realize this??? No, I'm no Messiah, but at times I feel like a Paul having been struck by the light on his way to Damascus and afterwards relentlessly pursue his interpretation of the master's teachings. Hadn't it been for Paul there possibly had been no Christendom, and following this megalomaniac parable I wonder if we have a fight for MOQ's soul going on? Pirsig - like Jesus - is far too vague on many points and switches from the most bland SOMism to true MOQism. Language as S/O oriented? In the grammatical sense perhaps, but SOM is more than a subject (an individual) different from other individuals they becoming objects in this context, it is the "objective attitude" described by ZAMM. Anyway, the MOQ introduces the dynamic/static chasm instead of the S/O one (we are no longer isolated subjects) and when my references to the Newton example raises so many voices of protests and disbelief I think I am justified in my disappointment. I would have liked to see that painting of Bob and Chris on the motorcycle. Send me a photo of it, please. Bo Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
