Quoting Ron Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> 
> > [Platt]
> > If you meant "semiotic" why didn't you say so? Numbers aren't words.
> > 
> > [Arlo]
> > Sure they are. Tell me a number that is not a word....
> > 
> > I mentioned semiosis because you apparently think that writing it
> "2+2=4"
> > (mathematical notation) is somehow different from the words this
> sentence
> > conveys (namely "two plus two equals four").
> > 
> > I mean, when you read this "2+2=4" in your head, don't you say the
> "words"? 
> Platt:
> Sometimes, yes. Sometimes, no. But I'll bet their are plenty of
> mathematicians
> who don't verbalize their equations. I agree with what Ham said about
> having
> non-verbal concepts. 
> 
> Ron:
> Sure there are non-verbal concepts, art, music, what I am stressing and
> I believe Arlo too, is that intellectual concepts align with semiotic
> rules
> Of comprehension. So that when we intellectualize about the origins of
> Objects we are really questioning how we term and understand experience
> Linguistically.

I have no problem with semiotics. 


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