Greetings Joe,
I was wondering if either you or Matt would consider this point-of-view
worth considering? Or how did you (Joe), see Matt and me on the same page?
Marsha
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From: "Marsha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 7:37 AM
Subject: Re: [MD] Truth and the Linguistic Turn
Greetings Joe,
If I look to the West, truth looks one way, and if I look to the East the
truth looks another way. I never want to be the one who assumes truth to
be: This is what I think, this what I feel, so this is the way it is...
I would have never thought so, but I am beginning to think that the closer I
look, the further I get from any kind of "truth". The generality is closer
to the truth, the specific instance is just made up story, myth, or maybe a
beautiful song, or poem. But I don't know...
Marsha
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Maurer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [MD] Truth and the Linguistic Turn
Hi Matt, Marsha, and all,
[Matt]
"And it is agreed by most philosophers (and all laypeople) that knowledge
and process of finding truth begins with our experience of the world.
[Joe]
I like Marsha¹s point of view: there are different ways of viewing the
world! Nicoll talks about a distinction between ³impressions² and
³associations². The distinction he is drawing is echoed in Persig¹s
statement: ³Culture hands us a set of glassesS.² When I was young my first
impressions became organized into associations of behavior in society!
Later in life impressions fall on these associations, instead of consciousy
and my outlook becomes mechanical from a very young age.
[Matt]
But what is the utility in placing truth in the moment of presentness if it
might be false when it becomes the past in the next moment?"
[Joe]
If I don¹t allow my consciousness of the ³present², but only my associations
of the past, I will have no hint that my behavior depends on mechanical
associations learned at my mom¹s knee. I am acting like a child, with no
hint that I am acting mechanically, not consciously from developed
faculties. It has always worked before. If I make no mistakes in going
beyond my youthful associations, I live my life in mechanical sleep. I
live, but am I alive?
[Joe]
IMO Matt and Marsha arrive at the same page, life, from different
perspectives: variety is a difficulty of life, or variety is the spice of
life. How many varieties does life come in? Is the inorganic a ³present
variety² of life? Why isn¹t evolution discovered in a ³process of finding
truth in our experience of the world?²
Joe
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