SA,

Sorry, I didn't follow you. You language sometimes confuses me. I thought you were saying people were not talking about personal events, but would rather be involved in arguing. By all means decide who is right, and who is wrong, and why? But I'd bet it's about feelings. Anyway, sorry to be so wrong.

Marsha



----- Original Message ----- From: "Heather Perella" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: [MD] moq thought experiement 1.


    Who said I wanted anything?  What do you want?
If I've said anything that hints of wanting, it was clearing said below in the post, I'll summarize. Why do you, Horse, want to kick Sqonk and Anthony and dmb off if they discuss an event that is loaded with moral questions? This is the metaphysics of morals, correct?
     What didn't you get Marsha, that you wonder with a question?


SA


--- On Tue, 7/8/08, Marsha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: Marsha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MD] moq thought experiement 1.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 7:37 AM
SA,

I watch the wind move through the leaves and feel the the
breeze move across
my face.  I marvel at the delicate softness of my little
dogs tummy while I
scratch it.  Small things.  Tiny things.   Miniscule
things.  It might be
interesting if I danced the words across the back of your
hand, but
otherwise I don't think you'd care much.

What exactly do you want?

Marsha



----- Original Message ----- From: "Heather Perella"
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Subject: Re: [MD] moq thought experiement 1.


> Horse,
>
>     Why?  After everything that has happened here,
with all the pleas
> about Platt and Arlo for one and the biggest one
I've known of since I've
> been here?  Isn't this real time experiences, in
real time philosophies,
> ways, clashing?  Morals have been introduced and
instead of
> thought-experiments it seems we find a real event that
is happening, the
> real world so to speak, the one I've written about
here for years, from my
> job, my wife, my emotional experiences in the past,
the REAL WORLD, not
> these virtual thought experiments, but something
actually happening, why
> politics can be interesting on this forum at times for
it's something
> happening in the real world instead of having our
heads in the clouds with
> no impact, no extended version of what our thoughts
are doing in the real
> world.  This is something I've found very lacking
here on the forum.
> People refrain from discussing what they actually do,
what they strive in
> real life, this becomes a
> playground where thoughts are trapped and killed into
the archives.  What
> about something that's really happening?  What is
your fear about the real
> world?  If they all want to argue it out, then they
can, nobody is
> stopping them, and nobody says they have to respond.
Now if somebody
> would go on and on about something without any
responses from those
> involved and begin to demean them and say nasty lies
without any kind of
> defense coming back to argue or deny, and still
somebody goes on with the
> trash talking while everybody has let the person go
and not tried to
> engage them, then maybe you might want to step in, but
why so fast this
> time?  So many people here have experiences tied into
their discussions
> that they don't share on this forum.  Maybe this
forum is the brain in the
> vat going nowhere, maybe not... I wonder sometimes.
>
>
> SA
>
>
> --- On Sun, 7/6/08, Horse
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> From: Horse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: Re: [MD] moq thought experiement 1.
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Date: Sunday, July 6, 2008, 11:42 AM
>> Mark, David and Anthony
>>
>> I don't want a flare up of the previous
arguments so
>> could you please
>> take this discussion off-line.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>> Horse
>>
>>
>>
>> david buchanan wrote:
>> > Squonk said to Anthony:
>> > This is the sort of thing you do not appear
to have
>> any compunction descending to. Using my mother
like this is
>> below the belt, even for you. My family didn't
enjoy
>> reading the first instance: ...As a matter of fact
I was
>> not driving my mother to and from hospital three
times a
>> week. Never have done. I was driving her to Halton
General
>> Hospital once a week...  You did not ask my
permission to
>> mention this matter or consider its
inappropriateness. My
>> family and i found the context bit off. ...I did
not
>> informed you of my mothers death. I don't have
any
>> contact with you. ...So, i suppose it may be tough
luck on
>> my part that someone like you can try to use love
to
>> undermine and discredit me in some sense? ...But
it
>> can't work for a reason completely unconnected
with the
>> death of my mother: it doesn't matter how a
fact is
>> stated; if it is so then that's that.
>> >
>> > dmb says:
>> > I think you have things backwards again,
Squonk. Back
>> around the time of your mother's death you
were
>> slandering Anthony here with charges of
plagiarism, I asked
>> him why you were being such an asshole. Ant
defended you. He
>> explained that you were in the process of
grieving, that you
>> really aren't so bad and he said I should cut
you some
>> slack. He's been way more than fair, even
compassionate
>> toward you and now you're attacking for it.
You're
>> calling him a liar because he got the mileage
wrong when he
>> was DEFENDING YOU!? Clearly, you don't deserve
an inch
>> of slack and I'm done giving it to you. Dude,
>> seriously, what the hell is wrong with you? You
act as if
>> you WANT people to hate you. A non-stop stream of
anger and
>> hostility has been pouring out of you for as long
as I can
>> remember. Jesus, don't you ever get tired of
it?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
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