---------------------------------------- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:01:27 -0400 > Subject: Re: [MD] differences between MoQ and SOM > >> [Platt, syllogized] >> 1) humans are aware >> 2) humans are composed of particles >> 3) :. particles are aware. >> >> This reasoning has got to go, else: >> 1´) humans are bipedal >> 2´) humans are composed of particles >> 3´) :. particles are bipedal. >> Craig > > Does this reasoning have to go, too? > > "If chemistry professors exercise choice, and chemistry professors are > composed exclusively of atoms, then it follows that atoms must exercise > choice too." (Lila, 12)
yes. don't make me look up the exact name of the fallacy, but I'm relatively certain there is one. I could be wrong, though. but I'm no logician. there is a saying that goes something like "the whole is worth more than the sum of its parts" in terms of consciousness, they call it an "emergent property," like probability, the effect is not realized until a large number of events are put together which one author I read wryly interpreted to mean, "we don't know what the hell happens, but at some point a miracle happens and ta-da, a brain creates a mind that is 'aware'" its one of the problems of consciousness... there's the 'hard problem' and the 'easy problem' and I forget which is which... there was article in Time magazine about it awhile back. to me, its a bit like asking why the speed of light is c and not some other number, why DNA chose to replicate itself, why life evolved... who cares, really? a lot of the 'why' questions science can't answer. but I digress. back to the point: to say that a particle is aware is a little like saying that a hair is bald. alright, fine, but its bald in a totally different way than a man is, so there ought to be a different word for it. > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ _________________________________________________________________ Store, manage and share up to 5GB with Windows Live SkyDrive. http://skydrive.live.com/welcome.aspx?provision=1?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_skydrive_102008 Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
