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From: Krimel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 1:43:31 PM
Subject: Re: [MD] The Menu/Reality issue
Ron:
I was waiting for this comment, NO. Remember the illusion conversations? We
are recognizing an ultimate reality, we just realize that what we know of it
is a static conceptualization of infinitly running stimuli or qualia.
[Krimel]
I don't see how this clarifies much. You are still left with "static
conceptualizations" which strike me as purely private "mental" events.
Ron:
You made the accusation of radical subjectivism, solopsism in fact.
Solopsism posits that external reality is non existent that physical reality
is generated by the mind.
We posit that external reality does exist, and that the human expereince
is a novel based on a true story. Therefore expereinced reality is a type of
interpretation
of "real events".
The pisser is, ultimate reality is comprehended by reduction, abstraction,
simplification and limits
in the reception and interpretation of qualia thus ultimate reality may never
be fully conceptualized
for what it "IS". Leaving it ultimately and absolutely undefineable.
Pirsigs approach to empiricism is along the lines of modern Physicists, the
harmony between
inductive expereince and deductive reason takes inductive expereince as prime.
This is the test of a "true" meta-physics, that it relflect and lead current
attitudes in Physics.
Which it does.
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