On 11/16/08 7:28 PM, "Ham Priday" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Greetings, Joe --
>
>> Aristotle divided thought into various categories, one of them
>> being Metaphysics. answers.comSSSS..metaphysics has been
>> understood in various ways: as an inquiry into what basic
>> categories of things there are (e.g., mental and physical); etc.
>
> According to philosophy scholar Dagobert Runes, 'Metaphysics' was an
> arbitrary title given by Andronicus of Rhodes (c. 70 B.C.) to the collection
> of Aristotle's writings. He defined metaphysics as "the science of being as
> such." So, if we can say nothing else about Aristotle's contribution to
> human knowledge, he established Metaphysics as the science of categorizing
> nature.
>
Greetings Ham,
I agree that Aristotle did not coin the word ³metaphysics². He used
descriptive terms, like ³what comes after Physics.²
>> IMO Pirsig eliminated the ³mental² category by substituting four
>> levels of evolution in the ³physical² category which are ³mystically²
>> perceived. ³Mystically² is an analogy for the way we perceive
>> different levels of existence. ³Conscious² is another analogy for
>> ³mystically². I am conscious in earth, water, air, fire, or inorganic,
>> organic, social, intellectual realities. Conscious is contrasted to
>> Mechanical, not as ³mental to physical² but as undefined (mystical)
>> to defined knowledge.
>
> I agree that Pirsig "eliminated" (by purposely rejecting) the psychic nature
> of man which, to my way of thinking, is his most serious mistake. I also
> believe it is a mistake to regard consciousness as "mystical". I understand
you do not accept the statement of undefined/defined, DQ/SQ reality. Yet the
most inner you is undefined to me, and you would never be able to put it into
words. ³Mystical² is a word pointing to a need of analogy for understanding
like ³good². I know there is an inner ³You².
I understand you do not accept the statement of undefined/defined, DQ/SQ
reality. Yet the most inner you is undefined to me, and you would never be
able to put it into words. ³Mystical² is a word pointing to a need of
analogy for understanding like ³good². I know there is an inner ³You² as a
social being.
> The
> cognizant individual is a 'being-aware'. Hence, the psyche is the locus or
> agent of experience that actualizes existential 'beingness' which is our
> physical reality. Whether you call it "mechanical" or "objective", physical
> reality is the intellectual construct of beingness from value. Awareness is
> not an existent, nor are the perceptions, thoughts, feelings, or ideas that
> constitute consciousness. This is a statement of fact, not mysticism.
> "Undefined knowledge" may be a mystery to human understanding, but it is not
> "mystical"; it is simply that which is unknown.
>
I won¹t quibble about the word ³mystical². I assume you will accept
³analogy or metaphor² to describe an ³intellectual construct of beingness
from value² since being ness is not a usual word.
>> Aristotle's perception of the four transcendentals: thing (res),
>> one (unum), true (verum), good (bonum) was a mystical perception.
>
> I have not seen the term "mystic" or "mystical" referred to in the writings
> of Aristotle. In two Wikipedia essays on Aristotle (under "Metaphysics of"
> and "Works of") the word "mysticism" appears only once, and it is in
> reference to Plato.
>
> These are of course only my opinions.
>
> Thanks, Joe.
>
> --Ham
Thanks, Ham
Joe
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