Marsha Your persistence on this and other threads is revealing !
I lurve where you are going with this line of challenging enquiry and everytime there is a refreshing "void" of view, it adds to the value of the discussion, which has been of high quality of late. To paraphrase from whatever else I may have posted from years past. All reality is virtual ; virtuality i.e perceptions of patterns is easily mistaken for reality. The persistence of illusions or if you prefer the persistence of patterns. The subject object pattern is the greatest illusion wrought upon mankind. The rules that have been observed and "required" are dictated by this illusion. Change any one of these rules, time for example, and we live in an alternate universe with a different virtuality and a different metaphysics with its own set of rules and their consequential patterns. There is only one rule that Quality observes: and that there is none. If only we can say as much about quality without all the words of the last 10 years. Paint me a picture..... Best regards Khoo Hock Aun On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 5:28 PM, MarshaV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 03:47 AM 11/18/2008, you wrote: > >> Marsha >> >> Re your famous "afterthoughts" >> >> 17 Nov: >> >> > How about map pattern and terrain pattern? >> >> A glib reply is that both are inorganic, the paper of a map is "dead" >> organic material and the ink ?? The terrain is surely inorganic. >> >> > How about a pattern not being either a subject or an object? >> >> Such a pattern is either inorganic, biological or social because all >> intellectual patterns are S/O. >> >> This reminds me of the Medieval Conciles discussing number of >> angels on pinpoints. Let's not bring the MOQ down to that "level". >> > > Greetings Bo, > > To me a pattern is a conventional, conceptual construct. It is an > analogue, experience, generality and expectation. Patterns are interrelated > and interconnected and therefore your definition of the map pattern and > terrain pattern is incomplete. - I do not accept a subject/object > dichotomy. I do, though, wonder why you can't get past it. > > What does your Medieval Conciles comment have to do with anything? Are you > trying to pump up your authority with such a comment? And why should you > determine the correct course of this discussion? > > > Marsha > > > > > . > . > The Universe is uncaused, like a net of jewels in which each is a > reflection of all the others in a fantastic, interrelated harmony without > end. > . > . > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6016-301 4079 Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
