Hello Platt 27 Feb.:
Bo before: > > See, social, inorganic and biological values are made into > > intellectual "signs" and "manipulated independently ...etc" exactly > > as SOM sees language as an abstract shadow of the real world. All > > this go against the very grain of the real MOQ that has relegated > > the S/O - mind/matter - distinction as intellect's value. I.e. this > > is all INSIDE the 4th. level . Platt: > Probably a stupid question: "What else is inside the 4th level?" Nothing else than S/O patterns. But allow me a little "chautauqua". The very idea of the static levels is that they are built on top of the former, thus the intellectual level is like the proverbial iceberg with its intellectual value held above the surface by the enormous mass of the lower levels. Yet, from the top seen everything is intellectual ice. That's the point: all levels transform everything below into own value (what's above is "alien"). Living organisms do not "know" any inorganic patterns, it's either a fit environment or not.. Social organisms (humans) see everything as useful or useless regarding their common cause, and as said intellect "looks down on creation" through its S/O glasses and see it all as preparations for the emergence of mind. So it's no lack of content, all existence is a material world perceived by a mind - or a material world having spawned mind, dependent on being a materialist or an idealist. > If nothing else, doesn't that make the 4th level the exclusive site of > S/O metaphysics? Yes, the 4th. level is SOM - all of it, every last bit! Minus the M which is taken over by the MOQ, that now sees everything below itself as Quality levels. Thanks for asking. Platt Bo Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
