[Platt] "Absence of complete knowledge," i.e., ignorance [Arlo] So DQ is ignorance. Okay. I'll buy that.
[Krimel} I like to call it uncertainty. But I'm in. [Platt] Few responses to change and uncertainty are DQ responses.. [Arlo] "[Dynamic] Quality IS the response of the organism to its environment." (ZMM, emphasis added). [Krimel] I'd say almost all responses to change involve uncertainty. You never know what might happen on the way from here to there. [Platt] Most are static responses from one's social and intellectual patterns... [Arlo] HOW we respond is always constrained (and enabled) by the static patterns of which we are comprised. There is no such thing as a "static response". There IS such a thing as a "probable response", a response to DQ that is so likely to occur that we see it as a "static pattern". "Static response". Ai yi yi... [Krimel] I would add that dynamic and static are both used to describe the same idea: Quality. This gives us a way to talk about phenomena. "Hurricane" as a concept is a static pattern of meaning. It describes the common properties of a meteorological event. But to be inside a hurricane is pure dynamic quality. Everything that used to be static in the world around you is now uncertain. Objects fly in the wind, trees bend and buildings shudder. Concepts are static, percepts are dynamic. The way I see it, I rejoice at each and everything that can be made static in my world. It's one less thing that's likely to hit me in the head during a high wind. "Dynamic response." Holy shit, DUCK!" [Platt] If horror, disgust or dread is involved, the likely source is a social or intellectual pattern reacting to a biological pattern [Arlo] Ah, right DQ only produces Cezanne's and concertos. Sadly, though, this is not true. DQ also produces plane crashes and volcanic eruptions and plague outbreaks and meteors crashing into us and zepplin's exploding and boats sinking and cancer and strokes and famine and pestilence. "Horror, disgust or dread" are perspectives from a human point-of-view. Nothing more. Certainly not anything "DQ" would be concerned with. [Krimel] The fact that all humans everywhere are able to involuntarily communicate these emotions, both the good ones and the bad ones, suggests that they have been common to our ancestors for a very long time. They are encoded directly into our biology. In that sense they are truly static. But they allow for dynamic and flexible interaction with the environment. They save us from the horrible and bond us to what's lovable. The pre-conceptual cutting edge of experience is emotion. Pre-intellectual means biological. The disgust I feel when stepping in dog shit is a biological response to biological quality. Joy I felt when Obama was elected was a biological response to social quality. The embarrassment I feel for Platt when reading many of his posts is a biological response to low intellectual quality. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
